1970 reverse lenses?

[Mike F.]

What is going on with my 70 reverse lenses? I’ve had a couple of judges make comment on them (as if something was wrong with them). The white/reverse part of the lens seems to be glued in, which aligns with he TIMJG pg. 46. Both outer red lenses are marked at the 10:00 position with the word “Guidex”, the white lenses are marked Guide 19 SAE RA 70.
The outer brake light lenses are typical Guide 19 SAE ST/ 70.

[Don L.]

Re: 1970 reverse lenses?

Good post Mike. Thanks for it.

My 1972 has one inboard lens (with reverse insert) with the white lens assembled upside down like one of yours. The other lens has the designed orientation. I remember mentioning it to a long time NCRS guru when I had it on the chapter judging field in 2009 and was told that it was "interesting" and urged not to replace or change it. He mentioned that it should generate some interest. This guru posts here quite often and if he remembers/wants to come out of the shadows, he can do so.

In the end, I left it that way and it's as presented in 2008 still today.

[Terry M.]

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Mike,
Do you know what they were commenting about, or are you looking for us to gaze into our crystal balls?

FWIW: I don't see anything wrong with your lenses, but then exteriors are no my long suit.

[Edward J.]

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Mike, I have noticed that the stainless rings that are affixed to the lens from the factory have some sort of glue or heat molded to the lens on the lens I have looked at, it appears that the back-up lens don't have this, as the stop/tail does show this. maybe Terry can comment on this. The reproduction lens do not have this feature.

[Mike F.]

Re: 1970 reverse lenses?

Mike,
Do you know what they were commenting about, or are you looking for us to gaze into our crystal balls?

FWIW: I don't see anything wrong with your lenses, but then exteriors are no my long suit.

I always presumed they were correct. I don't have my latest judging sheets back yet, so don't know if anything was written down or not. I guess I'm just looking for a second opinion that what I have is correct.

[Alan S.]

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Hi Mike,
I think your lenses show what the TIM&JG indicates is correct for 1970 cars. The inner white portion of the lens is obviously glued to the outer red portion, and the word GuideX is in the outer circle.
Was there a deduction or just a comment that your back-up lenses are noticeably different than the later 1971 lens in which the there is a 'seamless' transisition from the white part to the red part in ADDITION to the change in shape and pattern as opposed to the 'glue line' on your 70 lens?
Were they perhaps looking for the GUIDE 19…. to be on the outer red ring, as it is on the tailamp?
Here's the 'precise' transition on a 71 lens.
Regards,
Alan

[Don L.]

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Hmmm. I assUmed that the point-out was with regard to the rotational orientation of the alpha numeric characters in the white/center section. Maybe I'm mis-noticing it? Notice how they are not oriented toward the bottom of the lens but instead, more randomly located. I have one lens on my '72 that's oriented at the bottom (same as the red lens) and one that's approx. 300* off. BTW, the "guru" I mentioned in my earlier post is involved here already

[Alan S.]

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Hi Don,
I read your post and noticed the orientation too.
But since that orientation isn't mentioned in the TIM&JG I didn't think that was the issue.
But it does look 'inconsistent', if not odd, so maybe that is what the judges were noting.
Without the judging sheets it's all conjecture.
Regards,
Alan

[Don L.]

Re: 1970 reverse lenses?

Hi Don,
I read your post and noticed the orientation too.
But since that orientation isn't mentioned in the TIM&JG I didn't think that was the issue.
But it does look 'inconsistent', if not odd, so maybe that is what the judges were noting.
Without the judging sheets it's all conjecture.
Regards,
Alan

Hi too, Alan. I had no deducts or even comments come to me from judges in my case. I had previously noticed my orientation concern and asked if it seemed "typical". I was told that it was "interesting" and that I should leave it that way. It's still that way today...

[Alan S.]

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Hi Don,
I guess I could describe what's happened to my 'hairline' as 'interesting'. Your information encourages me to leave it this way!!!!
Did the fan clutch pan out?
Regards,
Alan

[Don L.]

Re: 1970 reverse lenses?

Hi Don,
I guess I could describe what's happened to my 'hairline' as 'interesting'. Your information encourages me to leave it this way!!!!
Did the fan clutch pan out?
Regards,
Alan

The clutch panned out very well. Thanks. I sent you a PM with details.

I hope Mike comes back to this thread to provide details on his original post.

[Pat M.]

Re: 1970 reverse lenses?

Sorry to be so late to the party ...

I've seen a lot of what I believe to be original 70 reverse lenses, and the character orientation seems to be random. Mine, which I believe are original lenses, have one like the OP at the 12 o'clock position, and another at the 11ish position. Never had any judge comment on either.