Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

[Kevin B.]

I had to go with a new front clip and have no reference for the mounting position of the feder badges. The original front clip is long gone. I can't figure out the references from body lines in the assembly manual. Can anyone direct me to dimensions or could measure there's and post dimensions?

[Joe R.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

OK, taken from an unharmed-unmolested 63 front end. This measurement is from the center of the rear mounting hole! It is 2 3/4" from the mid line and 13 3/4" from the rear fender edge. You can use the emblem to get the spacing for the holes.

JR

[Dan H.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

Joe, Kevin, 63 and 64 fender flags are one inch different, 64 being farther foward than 63. Kevin, find a 64 and use it for you template. Also, left and right are slightly different, so be careful.

[Alan D.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

Believe the 63 is different than 64. The 64 was shifted forward by 1". See Sec 11-13 sheet 1.00 in 63AIM and Sec 11-13 sheet A1.00 in 64AIM. However I recall a discussion on the issue so verify before drilling.

[Joe R.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

Dan,

Since you have a 64 please give us the measurements for the emblems both right and left. I'll check the 63 on the passenger side as the measurment was on the drivers side. In the 66 AIM it specifies to cut the stud as close to the nut as possible on the passenger side to clear the heater box. Never heard of that before. Then again the only 66 I have owned didn't deserve a cross-flag anyway!

JR

PS. Checked the passenger side on the 63 and it is exactly 1/4" more forward than the drivers side. This discussion is leading me to believe there was no template to locate these emblems. Could that be true???

[Dan H.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

Dan,

Since you have a 64 please give us the measurements for the emblems both right and left. I'll check the 63 on the passenger side as the measurment was on the drivers side. In the 66 AIM it specifies to cut the stud as close to the nut as possible on the passenger side to clear the heater box. Never heard of that before. Then again the only 66 I have owned didn't deserve a cross-flag anyway!

JR

Joe, my 64 is Fuel Injected, which uses the old 63 mounting holes. If Kevin's 64 is carb, the flags will be one inch further forward than the 64 FI.

[Joe R.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

Dan,

Ok, my instinct here asks "WHY"? There's got to be a reason for locating these emblems forward, backwards and different on FI cars. Did the emblems on the FI hit the heater box or were they not centered for the inside bonding strip? What is the rationale here for moving these emblems?
Could it be as I mentioned above that there was actually NO template to locate these and there was some union worker with a drill in his hand ready to locate these. I don't think so! Most would have been verticle with no template!

JR

[Dan H.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

Dan,

Ok, my instinct here asks "WHY"? There's got to be a reason for locating these emblems forward, backwards and different on FI cars. Did the emblems on the FI hit the heater box or were they not centered for the inside bonding strip? What is the rationale here for moving these emblems?
Could it be as I mentioned above that there was actually NO template to locate these and there was some union worker with a drill in his hand ready to locate these. I don't think so! Most would have been verticle with no template!

JR

Joe, the FI emblem does indeed need to be centered in the rear bonding strip to get the nuts on it. The 64 AIM shows the two locations for the flags as different for carb and FI. The 64 FI emblems are identicle to the 63 AIM locations for carb and FI. For some reason, 64 carb flags moved forward one inch. If you look closely at factory 63 and 64 pictures you will see the flags more forward on the carb 64s.

[Kevin B.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

I do in fact have a carb engine. As I look at the AIM, it shows the driver's side mounting. Of course the reference lines mean nothing to me. Nor do I see anything "official" about the passenger side emblem being at a different position. Very confusing! Thanks for all the replies.

[Dan H.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

I do in fact have a carb engine. As I look at the AIM, it shows the driver's side mounting. Of course the reference lines mean nothing to me. Nor do I see anything "official" about the passenger side emblem being at a different position. Very confusing! Thanks for all the replies.

Kevin, in the 64 AIM, sect 11-13 sheet A-1, you'll notice the line going up from the side emblem 1.34 LH, 1.48 RH. These are measured forward from reference line 'O' and .88 up from horizontal line '20'. In the revision box (3) dated 10-3-63 it says 'was .34 LH & .48 RH'. This when the emblem moved forward one inch, but only on the carb cars. Now look at sect one, sheet C5.00. This describes how to locate the 'O' and '20' reference lines to measure from. Unless you're an engineer, you can measure/template off an existing 64 carb car to make life easier!!! Good luck.
Dan

[Paul J.]

Re: Front Fender Emblem Placement 1964

And here we go again. There are pictures in Post #11 of an early 64 FI. Just add 1 inch.

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?97004-64-front-side-embelms&highlight=side+emblem