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  • Scott S.
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    • September 11, 2009
    • 1961

    1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this original?

    Car was built January 11, 1967. The Judging Guide and archive searches show that the steering box top should have "5666723" cast into the cover along with "Check ---> <---LUBE" and a two digit mold number.

    My top cover has the two digit mold number ("72"), and the last four digits of the part number, "6723". It also has the number "334" cast into a depression with what looks like a slotted screw on either end, but I think that is also part of the casting.

    Is this the original top cover? If the "334" is a Julian date code for the 334th day of the year (1966), that would be Wednesday November 30th if I calculated correctly.


    What do you guys make of this?
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  • John C.
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    • December 31, 2004
    • 616

    #2
    Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

    Scott

    Yours is the same as on my 67.

    I have 61 for the possible date code. My car was built very late March so that would work out very well if that is what it is.

    John
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    • Scott S.
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      • September 11, 2009
      • 1961

      #3
      Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

      Originally posted by John Carlson (43123)
      Scott

      Yours is the same as on my 67.

      I have 61 for the possible date code. My car was built very late March so that would work out very well if that is what it is.

      John
      John,

      Glad to find out mine's not the only one that doesn't exactly match the description in the 67 JG. My original search parameters were too narrow, I just found two more 1967 examples in the archives (maybe three, I can't tell for sure on Jerry Fuccillo's picture) with the same type markings as ours, including the possible Julian date code markings. The examples are in this Thread: c-2 steering gear

      All of them have the "wagon wheel", just as previous model years, so the '67 covers were still being made by Central Foundry (see post 42, Joe Lucia: https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...cover&uid=8597).

      More replies will help narrow down the changeover point from "5666723" to the abbreviated "6723", also interested to see if other replies show that the suspected Julian date code numbers consistently precede their car's build dates by 0-to-90 days or more.

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      • Wayne M.
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        • February 29, 1980
        • 6414

        #4
        Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

        here's what is on my late '65; no evidence of a date code -- I think the '55' is a mold number, although it technically could be the 5th month ; car final assy. Aug 2nd 1965.

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        • William C.
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          • July 15, 2009
          • 239

          #5
          Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

          Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
          here's what is on my late '65; no evidence of a date code -- I think the '55' is a mold number, although it technically could be the 5th month ; car final assy. Aug 2nd 1965.

          Wayne..Mine is identical to yours and it's a May 67 car..Bill

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          • Jim S.
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            • August 31, 2001
            • 730

            #6
            Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

            I have the casting drawing of the steering gear top cover. I am trying to scan the pertanent section. I will post it later.

            But in the meantime, the "wagon wheel" in your photos is in the section that is indicated as "Date Pad to be Cast in this Location". Also the drawing calls out casting numbers as the "Last Four Numbers Only "6723" of part number to be depressed figures approximately 0.15 deep on this surface" in the general area as your photos. The LUBE CHECK and the arrow are as shown.

            The original drawing was dated 3-12-53

            The drawing was revised and redrawn on 7-19-66 Rev T so I have no revision history before that time.

            The only revisions after that time were slight casting info that would not change the design until the drawing was Obsoleted in 1998.

            Jim

            Jim

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            • Bill H.
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              • August 8, 2011
              • 439

              #7
              Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

              Looks like mine, Scott.
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              • Stephen L.
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                • May 31, 1984
                • 3146

                #8
                Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                This is the cover on my original manual steering box. April 10 1967 build date.
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                • Jim D.
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                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 2882

                  #9
                  Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                  Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                  here's what is on my late '65; no evidence of a date code -- I think the '55' is a mold number, although it technically could be the 5th month ; car final assy. Aug 2nd 1965.
                  My April 65 car is the same except mine has a "51" instead of your "55" My bolts are are different though, they are "RSC".

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                  • Bill H.
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                    • August 8, 2011
                    • 439

                    #10
                    Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                    Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
                    My April 65 car is the same except mine has a "51" instead of your "55" My bolts are are different though, they are "RSC".
                    Yea, interesting that the 67's are different too. Probably 2 suppliers and what ever was in the box on the assembly floor.

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                    • Timothy B.
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                      • April 30, 1983
                      • 5174

                      #11
                      Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                      Here is a picture of my 67 steering box, car was built September 23, 1966.

                      I guess I should paint the voltage regulater cover..
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                      • Scott S.
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                        • September 11, 2009
                        • 1961

                        #12
                        Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                        Originally posted by Jim Shea (36737)
                        I have the casting drawing of the steering gear top cover. I am trying to scan the pertanent section. I will post it later.

                        But in the meantime, the "wagon wheel" in your photos is in the section that is indicated as "Date Pad to be Cast in this Location". Also the drawing calls out casting numbers as the "Last Four Numbers Only "6723" of part number to be depressed figures approximately 0.15 deep on this surface" in the general area as your photos. The LUBE CHECK and the arrow are as shown.

                        The original drawing was dated 3-12-53

                        The drawing was revised and redrawn on 7-19-66 Rev T so I have no revision history before that time.

                        The only revisions after that time were slight casting info that would not change the design until the drawing was Obsoleted in 1998.

                        Jim

                        Jim
                        Jim,

                        Thanks very much for the info, if you can post the drawing that would be great. Having the original (revised July 1966) drawing along with multiple photos of other 67s with the abbreviated part number might give us some ammo during judging. Seems to confirm that the (Julian) date code was first implemented at the same time.

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                        • Scott S.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • September 11, 2009
                          • 1961

                          #13
                          Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                          Originally posted by Bill Hetzel (53669)
                          Looks like mine, Scott.
                          Bill,

                          It looks like the date-pad area on your cover says "348", which would be December 14th, 1966. How does that correspond with your car's build date?

                          I found this table to calculating Julian dates:

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                          • Scott S.
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                            • September 11, 2009
                            • 1961

                            #14
                            Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                            Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                            This is the cover on my original manual steering box. April 10 1967 build date.
                            Stephen,

                            Thanks for the post. January 23rd dated top cover certainly works for an April 10th build date.

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                            • Bill H.
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                              • August 8, 2011
                              • 439

                              #15
                              Re: 1967 Steering box top cover -not exactly like the JG describes, but is this origi

                              Originally posted by Scott Smith (50839)
                              Bill,

                              It looks like the date-pad area on your cover says "348", which would be December 14th, 1966. How does that correspond with your car's build date?

                              I found this table to calculating Julian dates:
                              http://amsu.cira.colostate.edu/julian.html
                              Early Jan. build date, the 11th IIRC.

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