Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

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  • Stan E.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 1, 1991
    • 383

    Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

    Can any of the antique insurance companies or regular insurance companies obtain a NCIB auto history report. How would a person get it from them and how far back does their search go? Thanks stan 19259
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • July 1, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

    Originally posted by Stan Emert (19259)
    Can any of the antique insurance companies or regular insurance companies obtain a NCIB auto history report. How would a person get it from them and how far back does their search go? Thanks stan 19259
    Stan, perform a search on this site for NICB and there is a wealth of information to be had. Basically you will find it is for law enforcement agencies, and with the advent of privacy laws, almost impossible for you and me to get any information. As I understand it, a law enforcement agency has to make the request and have documented reason for the request.
    Dick Whittington

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    • Ron H.
      Expired
      • August 1, 1993
      • 96

      #3
      Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

      No, an insurance company cannot access NICB. Only certain law enforcement agencies, and those agencies usually have a designated rep.

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      • Peter M.
        Expired
        • April 9, 2007
        • 570

        #4
        Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

        What does NICB stand for ?

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • July 1, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

          Originally posted by Peter Mihaltian (47240)
          What does NICB stand for ?
          Google is your friend http://tinyurl.com/3pubgvv
          Dick Whittington

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          • James G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • June 1, 1976
            • 1556

            #6
            Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

            Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
            Stan, perform a search on this site for NICB and there is a wealth of information to be had. Basically you will find it is for law enforcement agencies, and with the advent of privacy laws, almost impossible for you and me to get any information. As I understand it, a law enforcement agency has to make the request and have documented reason for the request.
            I have heard the same Dick. Back in the 80's and 90's I knew the SHERIFF of our county very well, but after 911 he told me they need to enter their criminal case number or the case reason for the inquiry. And if one was just fishing for info, the fine to the officer looking was up to $50000 each time. So my sources dried up, as so many have in the industry.

            I still believe that money talks.....and someone will come up with a way to access these old records and history.

            As I understand, the new NCRS Shipping info is from the GM Heritage section of GM Direct. I find it interesting they have only discovered the shipping info.
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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • October 1, 1980
              • 15541

              #7
              Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

              Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
              Google is your friend http://tinyurl.com/3pubgvv
              Minor trivia: They are headquartered (or at least they used to be) in DesPlaines, IL. THey have offices in many other locations.
              Terry

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • October 1, 1980
                • 15541

                #8
                Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

                Originally posted by James Gessner (943)
                As I understand, the new NCRS Shipping info is from the GM Heritage section of GM Direct. I find it interesting they have only discovered the shipping info.
                Jim,
                I have had a hunch that the information NCRS provides is the same (or at one time had the same source) as what the NICB has. BWTFDIK?
                Terry

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                • Kenneth B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 1, 1984
                  • 2078

                  #9
                  Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

                  Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                  Jim,
                  I have had a hunch that the information NCRS provides is the same (or at one time had the same source) as what the NICB has. BWTFDIK?
                  You are right Terry. I was able in the day to get info through a In. state cop. The info I got was the same as what NCRS sent me. I beleave that this was sent from GM when the car was shipped so if it was stolen in transet the SN could be traced. Even then a cop had to work in auto theft to get the info.
                  KEN
                  65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                  What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • October 1, 1980
                    • 15541

                    #10
                    Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

                    Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
                    You are right Terry. I was able in the day to get info through a In. state cop. The info I got was the same as what NCRS sent me. I beleave that this was sent from GM when the car was shipped so if it was stolen in transet the SN could be traced. Even then a cop had to work in auto theft to get the info.
                    KEN
                    Yes, I kind of figured it all had to come from GM. After all they made the suckas. I ain't as smart as I look.
                    Terry

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                    • Art A.
                      Expired
                      • July 1, 1984
                      • 834

                      #11
                      Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

                      Jim, what do you mean by this.............. "I find it interesting they have only discovered the shipping info." ?
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                      • Ron H.
                        Expired
                        • August 1, 1993
                        • 96

                        #12
                        Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

                        Originally posted by Peter Mihaltian (47240)
                        What does NICB stand for ?


                        Stands for National Insurance Crime Bureau

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                        • Jim C.
                          Expired
                          • April 1, 2006
                          • 290

                          #13
                          Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

                          Yes, NICB is pretty tight on giving out information. As for what the NICB used to provide, it's pretty much exactly what we're able to get from the NCRS/GM Heritage records. What's interesting, is that the NICB does have some gaps in their records. On two different occasions, I was able to check my current car's VIN with NICB, and on both occasions, there was no record. There were chunks of records missing for unknown reasons. My current car is a VERY late 1966. For some reason, the last 132 Corvettes from 1966 were not in NICB records. My car fell within those missing records. I also checked my first 1966 with NICB and the information was dead on. I had the POP for that car. Eventhough I had no luck with NICB regarding my current '66, I figured I'd give the NCRS/GM Heritage records a try, and was fortunate to get a positive response. I've heard that the NCRS records also have some gaps/missing records. To bad we can't combine both sets of records. We'd probably get a close to complete set. Generally speaking, based on what I've seen, and what I know, I think the NCRS records are basically the same as the NICB records.

                          Maybe I just like a good conspiracy, but I tend to believe that if delivery data exists, then other pertinent information pertaining to individual cars also exists.

                          Jim C.

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                          • Ronald L.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • October 19, 2009
                            • 3248

                            #14
                            Re: Can a insurance co. get NICB report?

                            Jim, You got that right and that's why the probe above. Give it 20 years, there's too much at stake right now

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