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  • Mike F.
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    • April 26, 2011
    • 668

    70 Emissions spark control thingy?

    Sorry, but I do not know the proper term for this thingy is???

    I currently have a vacuum line that goes from the distributor to the front of the carb. (fuel line needs replaced, I have one).

    With the new thingy in place where should the forward vacuum hose go? Where the current distributor vacuum hose is installed or where the red cap is?
    What happens with the "not used" vacuum port?

    Edit; The carb is #7040507 3529. My car was built in May. If I understand correctly the carb was built in Dec. 69. The TIM&JG indicate 7040507 is a 350(L46), 4spd & ECS, which I have. Would this be an acceptable time frame for the carb?

    The front of the carb has a vacuum nipple on both the driver and passenger side. If the ECS vacuum line attaches to the passenger side, what should be done with the driver side vacuum nipple?

    Thanks,
    Mike
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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43129

    #2
    Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

    Originally posted by Mike Furline (53259)
    Sorry, but I do not know the proper term for this thingy is???

    I currently have a vacuum line that goes from the distributor to the front of the carb. (fuel line needs replaced, I have one).

    With the new thingy in place where should the forward vacuum hose go? Where the current distributor vacuum hose is installed or where the red cap is?
    What happens with the "not used" vacuum port?

    Thanks,
    Mike

    Mike------



    The "thingy" is a SOLENOID. The vacuum port used should be the one on the passenger side of the carburetor. I don't recall there being a nipple on the driver side of the 1970 carb but maybe I've forgotten. Is this an original part numbered carb?
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Richard M.
      Super Moderator
      • September 1, 1988
      • 11241

      #3
      Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

      Mike, just a observation...... the distributor.

      It appears that it is not clocked correctly, being rotated a few extra teeth clockwise.

      When typically installed, the distributor cap screws should be perpendicular to the crankshaft, with the #1 wire facing front. It looks like your #1 wire faces front(your ref #2 tape marker), but the vacuum advance can should normally be pointing at a 45 degree angle between the carb and the rear of the block.

      Rich
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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • October 1, 1980
        • 15541

        #4
        Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

        Originally posted by Mike Furline (53259)
        Sorry, but I do not know the proper term for this thingy is???

        I currently have a vacuum line that goes from the distributor to the front of the carb. (fuel line needs replaced, I have one).

        With the new thingy in place where should the forward vacuum hose go? Where the current distributor vacuum hose is installed or where the red cap is?
        What happens with the "not used" vacuum port?

        Thanks,
        Mike
        Mike,

        Get yourself a 1970 AIM (Assembly Instruction Manual). There will be a drawing of the vacuum hoses for the TCS (Transmission Controlled Spark) solenoid in there. One of those ports has a hose that goes to a pipe on the top of the carburetor air horn (IF you have the correct carburetor). It is a vent for the TCS vacuum system.
        Terry

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        • Stuart F.
          Expired
          • September 1, 1996
          • 4676

          #5
          Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

          If you do use the solenoid, make sure you have it wired so it can function properly (I don't see the connector nearby). You can defeat it and still have it look stock using a manual override switch and some internal carburetor port work, but that's a whole different story.

          Stu Fox

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11535

            #6
            Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

            Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
            Mike, just a observation...... the distributor.

            It appears that it is not clocked correctly, being rotated a few extra teeth clockwise.

            When typically installed, the distributor cap screws should be perpendicular to the crankshaft, with the #1 wire facing front. It looks like your #1 wire faces front(your ref #2 tape marker), but the vacuum advance can should normally be pointing at a 45 degree angle between the carb and the rear of the block.

            Rich
            Rich,

            You must be used to midyears. His distributor clocking is correct for an early C3.

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Richard M.
              Super Moderator
              • September 1, 1988
              • 11241

              #7
              Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

              Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
              Rich,

              You must be used to midyears. His distributor clocking is correct for an early C3.

              Patrick
              Yep, C1's & C2's.......It looked really weird to me. Sorry Mike.
              Rich

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              • Edward J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • September 16, 2008
                • 6939

                #8
                Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

                Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                Rich,

                You must be used to midyears. His distributor clocking is correct for an early C3.

                Patrick

                Patrick, I think he maybe off one tooth on the dist. clock position, It would seem that the tach cable would really be kinked at that position,and the dist. window would face more to the front.

                I think that Doc. rebuild has a vaccum dia. in his parts book if you have it.
                New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                • Patrick H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1989
                  • 11535

                  #9
                  Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

                  Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                  Patrick, I think he maybe off one tooth on the dist. clock position, It would seem that the tach cable would really be kinked at that position,and the dist. window would face more to the front.

                  I think that Doc. rebuild has a vaccum dia. in his parts book if you have it.
                  Looks like the two I have:

                  Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                  71 "deer modified" coupe
                  72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                  2008 coupe
                  Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                  • Edward J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 16, 2008
                    • 6939

                    #10
                    Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

                    Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                    Looks like the two I have:

                    Pat, his window is just behind the Dist clamp, yours is in front of Dist clamp. maybe the timing is retarded a bit.
                    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1989
                      • 11535

                      #11
                      Re: 70 Emissions spark control thingy?

                      Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                      Pat, his window is just behind the Dist clamp, yours is in front of Dist clamp. maybe the timing is retarded a bit.
                      "If" his distributor is original to his engine, it's easy enough to line up the staked lines on the distributor + intake and see if they match. That's what I do.

                      Patrick
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                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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