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I've been told that the A212CW is essentially unobtanium (can't get it).
Anyone know of a source for something like this? I was hit for a point at the Des Moines Regionals.
Thoughts?
Chris Enstrom
North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
2011 Z06, red/red
I bought the more expensive one from Paragon. I was told the wire mesh wasn't quite right. Part # 1010.
Last edited by Chris E.; January 18, 2011, 11:29 PM.
Chris Enstrom
North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
2011 Z06, red/red
I bought the more expensive one from Paragon. I was told the wire mesh wasn't quite right. Part # 1010.
Chris------
As Gary mentions, obtaining a 100% correct, real NOS 212CW manufactured in the 1967 period is going to cost you FAR, FAR MORE than the single point it might gain you. It would be absolutely foolish to pay this kind of money. In fact, if I were a billionaire I would not pay the kind of money these filters go for; I just could never allow myself to be that silly.
I've only ever seen one and it was at the NCRS judges retreat in Dallas five years ago on one of those amazing low mile cars that were there.
I have the current AC/Delco 212C replacement on my 67 which looks nothing at all like the original but works fine for driving around. It looks like a Fram filter to me.
It would be absolutely foolish to pay this kind of money. I just could never allow myself to be that silly.
Joe,
I could not agree more as the prices often paid for such parts is almost unbelievable. Thing is, I am one of many 'foolish/silly' people that inhabit this organization and, I'm not a billionaire.
I only have a couple cars and I do want to make them as right as I can comfortably afford to make them. I have, on many occasions, paid a whole lot more than the average person would.
Chris,
It would seem a lot of dough for one judging point but, if an original is what you want and can afford, I'm sure you will find one at some point. You will be in good company when you do as I am sure there are a whole bunch of silly foolish people here who have done the same.
L79 air filter element; When do we call the price crazy?
Henry,
There are photos of the period-correct A212CW in the archives.
And for those considering paying the going price for a correct filter, what if that price is $5,000, which is what I recall hearing quoted for that item? Still interested?
Re: L79 air filter element; When do we call the price crazy?
Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
Henry,
There are photos of the period-correct A212CW in the archives.
And for those considering paying the going price for a correct filter, what if that price is $5,000, which is what I recall hearing quoted for that item? Still interested?
Thanks Gary
Thanks Gary,
I have been checking the archives and they seem to be different styles even within the same years. As Chris pointed out he got dinged a point in judging for incorrect wire mesh. Here are 2 examples found from the same thread asking which A212CW was correct for a 66. https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...212CW&uid=9717 Unless I misunderstood/misread (which is VERY possible) both of these examples are 66 era. I would think since Jody's picture is from an original 66 it is correct. And we all know you can take anything John H. posts to the bank. As you can see by the pictures the differnce in the wire splice, so would they both be correct for judging? If so, then Chris perhaps your mesh isn't wrong after all. Just curious Chris which do you have? Thanks to John H. (1st picture) and Jody B.(2nd picture ) for the examples:
Henry and others,
If anyone would like to see a few pictures of a real deal one send me a private message and I would be more than happy to send anyone some pictures of a real one I saw when I OJ'd at the Nationals this past year in Charlotte. I don't know how to post a picture(s) on the DB. To hold a real one in my hand was a memorable moment. I would buy one if I could find one, that's for sure....The repro and service replacements look NOTHING like the real deals...I have only seen one in person in my life, and it was quite nice. Happy New Year to all.....See ya all in Kissimmee (with my car being judged.....oh boy....) ARA
Read the above post with interest. Although 5 large seems like a lot of cash to pay for an element it's small potatoes to the collectors. Not being smart now.
Story: It's nothing for some of the 57 FI car owners to pay 5 grand for a blue element. They don't care about the points guys/girls. They could care less about the fact that a Wix element is only a few points deduct.
They will blow 5 grand on a real deal element for one big reason.
The answer is: Bragging Rights. Tru story. JD
Yeah, $5K is a BIT much for 1 point. I'd do a couple hundred, but $5K is way too much.
Chris Enstrom
North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
2011 Z06, red/red
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