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  • Dale S.
    Expired
    • November 12, 2007
    • 1224

    K-19

    Wow, Someone paid $999.00 for a 67 smog pump on ebay. Dale
  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 1975
    • 5104

    #2
    Re: K-19

    There have been many over the past 5 years or so that have changed hands other places, as well as ebay, for that much and more. 66 and 67 are rare birds, because those are California-only, whereas 68-up became 50-states items.

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    • Mark D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 1, 1988
      • 2135

      #3
      Re: K-19

      Before the 'that guy's an idiot' or 'some people have more money than brains' comments start, let me be one of first to agree with the 'wow' comment. It is a lot of money. I just paid $4,500.00 with Bill Hodel for an all original dated smog set up for my 69 Camaro. It doesn't have one reproduction piece, including the hoses. Mint original assembly line parts are getting tough to score.

      I didn't like spending that kind of money but at the same time I'm glad I got the nice system. I feel the car is worth it. I'm not a rich guy. I get up and drag myself to work, work hard and decide how to spend the money I earn. I didn't ask anyone for a loan to buy that smog system. The point is, some parts are a heck of a bunch of seed and sometimes the points score may not seem worth it. In my case it isn't the points alone, it's the satisfaction of putting the car back together to the 'inth' degree. The only person I'm trying to satisfy is me.

      If that isn't enough ammunition, let me give the name callers some more. I'm the guy that paid Greenhoe $750.00 for the tri-power bolts.

      Regards,

      Mark
      Last edited by Mark D.; March 26, 2009, 04:37 PM.
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      • Dale S.
        Expired
        • November 12, 2007
        • 1224

        #4
        Re: K-19

        I was not commenting on anything except the value of my 67 K-19, A/C coupe has gone up. Dale

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        • Clem Z.
          Expired
          • January 1, 2006
          • 9427

          #5
          Re: K-19

          Originally posted by Mark Donnally (13264)
          Before the 'that guy's an idiot' or 'some people have more money than brains' comments start, let me be one of first to agree with the 'wow' comment. It is a lot of money. I just paid $4,500.00 with Bill Hodel for an all original dated smog set up for my 69 Camaro. It doesn't have one reproduction piece, including the hoses. Mint original assembly line parts are getting tough to score.

          I didn't like spending that kind of money but at the same time I'm glad I got the nice system. I feel the car is worth it. I'm not a rich guy. I get up and drag myself to work, work hard and decide how to spend the money I earn. I didn't ask anyone for a loan to buy that smog system. The point is, some parts are a heck of a bunch of seed and sometimes the points score may not seem worth it. In my case it isn't the points alone, it's the satisfaction of putting the car back together to the 'inth' degree. The only person I'm trying to stisfy is me.

          If that isn't enough ammunition, let me give the name callers some more. I'm the guy that paid Greenhoe $750.00 for the tri-power bolts.

          Regards,

          Mark
          every time i hear these stories i kick myself in the ass because i had boxes full of smog pumps i removed from mine and other peoples GM cars. i dumped them all when i move in 1991.

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          • Thomas N.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 1, 2002
            • 375

            #6
            Re: K-19

            The reason why these components are commanding such a price is because everybody did the same thing, remove the K-19 and threw it in the trash. Now all these cars that are being brought back to typical factory production, there is a demand for these to restore these cars. As demand goes up, so does the price. I agree the price of some of these parts is tough to justify/pay, but at least hopefully we can still find the parts necessary that we need for our restorations.
            Last edited by Thomas N.; March 26, 2009, 04:07 PM.
            NCRS New England Chapter Chairman 2022, 2024
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            1967 Corvette Convertible Under Restoration
            1996 Corvette Coupe NCRS Chapter Top Flight 99.5, NCRS National Top Flight 100.0

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            • Jeff G.
              Expired
              • October 26, 2006
              • 187

              #7
              Re: K-19

              I saw a decent pump on Ebay that was perfect match for my 69 BB and was bang on for date. I bid my maximum of $600. I lost the auction and haven't seen one since. That was 2 YEARS ago.

              By the way 71 owners, there is an original dated pump on Ebay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3AIT&viewitem=
              Last edited by Jeff G.; March 26, 2009, 04:43 PM.

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43129

                #8
                Re: K-19

                Originally posted by Dale Schafer (48165)
                Wow, Someone paid $999.00 for a 67 smog pump on ebay. Dale

                Dale-----


                The 66-67 style AIR pumps are not, at all, rare (although I'm sure they're getting rarer as time goes on). However, the 66-67 CORVETTE AIR pump IS rare. That's because it was used for only the following applications:

                1966 Corvette with K-19

                1967 Corvette with K-19

                1967 Camaro with Z-28 or big block with K-19

                It is possible to FUNCTIONALLY convert any "run-of-the-mill" 66-67 style AIR pump to the Corvette/Camaro configuration. However, the conversion would be instantly discerned by a "knowledgeable individual" (e.g. judge). 99.9% of the folks observing it wouldn't know the difference, though.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Roy B.
                  Expired
                  • February 1, 1975
                  • 7044

                  #9
                  Re: K-19

                  Originally posted by Mark Donnally (13264)
                  Before the 'that guy's an idiot' or 'some people have more money than brains' comments start, let me be one of first to agree with the 'wow' comment. It is a lot of money. I just paid $4,500.00 with Bill Hodel for an all original dated smog set up for my 69 Camaro. It doesn't have one reproduction piece, including the hoses. Mint original assembly line parts are getting tough to score.

                  I didn't like spending that kind of money but at the same time I'm glad I got the nice system. I feel the car is worth it. I'm not a rich guy. I get up and drag myself to work, work hard and decide how to spend the money I earn. I didn't ask anyone for a loan to buy that smog system. The point is, some parts are a heck of a bunch of seed and sometimes the points score may not seem worth it. In my case it isn't the points alone, it's the satisfaction of putting the car back together to the 'inth' degree. The only person I'm trying to satisfy is me.

                  If that isn't enough ammunition, let me give the name callers some more. I'm the guy that paid Greenhoe $750.00 for the tri-power bolts.

                  Regards,

                  Mark
                  Mark! Let me be the first not to conceder you as being a idiot , fortunately I'm not into C2 BB corvettes .I'm fortunate that few people would wont a 55 Corvette which keeps me out of you league $$$.
                  But I feel and do the same when it comes to my C1 55 Corvette, Real correct original parts is my passion and nothing els will satisfy me, it took me many years to get my Corvette as correct as it is. It's not a passion for every one but to me it is and I see for you too. There may be others but I feel my 55 is the most correct original 55 I've ever seen in 40 years besides my wheels and tires .It's never been my goal to judge what others do only my self .

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                  • Dan P.
                    Expired
                    • May 1, 2001
                    • 139

                    #10
                    Re: K-19

                    The '66/67 bits are especially rare. I was able to buy some "extra" stock of unobtanium parts - like original hoses complete with unique ink markings - by keeping an ear to the ground. I now have two sets for a '66 L36 equipped car.

                    Not too many NCRS judges would recognize what makes a complete, correct early '66 K19/67 system. Thankfully the next iteration of the '66 judging guide will have the best detail to date on this option.

                    Member Mark Gorney is very knowledgeable on K19 systems based on a few years of research and dogged persistence. He's a great resource if you need answers to niggling questions - especially for small block system.

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                    • Joseph T.
                      Expired
                      • May 1, 1976
                      • 2074

                      #11
                      Re: K-19

                      Originally posted by Dale Schafer (48165)
                      Wow, Someone paid $999.00 for a 67 smog pump on ebay. Dale
                      In 1988 at Bloomington I sold a complete NOS 1968 435/L88 smog pump take off with pump/tubes/dated clamps everything for $3500.

                      Today it would be priceless.

                      " Premium parts and premium cars bring a premium return "

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                      • Cecil L.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • June 1, 1980
                        • 449

                        #12
                        Re: K-19

                        So, I guess I shouldn't throw away my 67 Nova 327 complete smog system.

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43129

                          #13
                          Re: K-19

                          Originally posted by Cecil Loter (3596)
                          So, I guess I shouldn't throw away my 67 Nova 327 complete smog system.
                          Cecil----


                          I wouldn't, although it's probably not worth as much as a Corvette K-19 system. That's because the Nova system was similar to that used on many other Chevrolet models so it's less rare.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Gary J.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1980
                            • 1225

                            #14
                            Re: K-19

                            There is an interesting article in the The Corvette Restorer, Volume 24, Number 3, Winter 1998 that explains the 1966 K19 for a BB car. The old manual is wrong and I hope the change is in the new manual. Also if you will look at the 1966 AIM on page F359 it shows it for the L36.

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                            • Steven B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • July 1, 1982
                              • 3936

                              #15
                              Re: K-19

                              No reflection on anyone else but through the years we have all probably passed on parts, or cars, that seemed to be priced too high at the time. My "conscience" has saved me many times and oddly enough I did not listen to my wife and buy. Examples; $150.00 for a complete '57 FI, with distrib. and air cleaner, $950.00 for a black/red 283 HP '57, $2,500.00 for a complete 250 HP FI, 4 speed Cascade Green Corvette, $25.00 for 9 fin valve covers, $45.00 for an excellent '57 tach, $4,500 for a GS, less engine and transmission---yep one of the originals, $13,000 for a big tank red/black, 2 bar KO Z06, $23,000 for a silver blue/blue small tank Z06 (only missing the seat belts but included 4 extra drums and lining sets), $120.00 for 4 NOS Blue Streaks, and on and on. I estimate I have "saved" $60,000-$70,000 that WAS in my 401K last summer. I feel so proud of myself for resisting. 'Many things only come around once---
                              Last edited by Steven B.; March 27, 2009, 03:08 PM. Reason: added more stupid things did

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