1972 Frame Stencil - More ???'s

[Don L.]

Since I have my original rocker trim off for restoration, I thought - what the hey - I'll just do a little more, by adding the infamous stencil, which is currently not on my frame.

I bought the Quanta stencil kit and when I compare it to what I've read here, plus what I read in the TDB Archives and what I see in the NCRS JG and Tripoli guide, I have some extra questions and hope you all can help. I want to do this right.

1. All reference I see indicates a 1972 stencil should be 1" characters. My kit came with 3/4" - ???

2. All documentation I see indicates the suffix for the 4-spd car should be 131. The stencil I got is only 13 - ???

3. Late 1971 production apparently had the stencil both on the side (under pass door area) and behind the front right wheel. Does anyone know how long this went on? The stencil kit says "Sometime in 1972 the stencil position was moved from under the passenger door to the curved area of the frame behind the front wheel." Were there any early 1972's that also had the stencil on both locations? My car was built Aug 18, 1971.

Thanks for getting me this far. I have sent these ???'s to Quanta and am hoping that feedback here can best-prepare me for when Quanta gets back to me.

[Don L.]

Re: 1972 Frame Stencil - More ???'s

Update: I spoke to Quanta Products this afternoon. They do not have any documented information that determines whether the 1972 stencil characters are 3/4" or 1". Quanta says that they've seen too much conflict in the published references to use them without confirmation. They agree that since "1972" was hand-written on late 1971 frames, the character size for '72 should be the same as '71.

Does anyone have an original frame stencil that can tell us if the right size is 3/4" or 1"?

[Edward J.]

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Don,
What Was Hand Written On The Frame, Was It The Markings For The Shims, I Recently Ordered A Kit From Quanta For My Late 72.
Hopefully Its Not Going To Be The Same Questions For Me, Dave Strickland Has A 71 Coupe 5 Star Bow Tie Car He May Have A Answer For The Questions On Letter Size And Positon, Re-post A Question With His Name On The Post, He'll Answer. Ill Be Following For My Own Info, Thanks Ed

[Dave S.]

Re: 1972 Frame Stencil - More ???'s

Update: I spoke to Quanta Products this afternoon. They do not have any documented information that determines whether the 1972 stencil characters are 3/4" or 1". Quanta says that they've seen too much conflict in the published references to use them without confirmation. They agree that since "1972" was hand-written on late 1971 frames, the character size for '72 should be the same as '71.

Does anyone have an original frame stencil that can tell us if the right size is 3/4" or 1"?

Don,
My late 71 has two stencils and both are 3/4 inch high letters. As I recall that is typical for 70 and 71. Not sure about 1972.

[Bob D.]

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I have an early '71 that I bought in '72. The frame stencil is three quarter inch numbers in one location. It is below the passenger door. That is the only stencil on the car.

[Don L.]

Re: 1972 Frame Stencil - More ???'s

Thanks for the input so far, guys. Looks like '71s were 3/4", which kinda tells me that '72s were also 3/4", when we know early '72s had hand-written "1972" on them to differentiate 130s and 140s from 131s and 141s. Would really confirm if we can find a '72 that has an original stencil.

Also, Quanta Products did advise that they made and error on the suffix for mine. They sent me a "13", and agree that it should have been a "131". Quanta was very helpful and accomodating. Very professional. They would love to know which size is right. I told them that if I can get some confirmation through this post, I'd let them know and then they'd be able to help others in the future.

Any '72s?

[Edward J.]

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Don,
I Think Patrick Hulst Has 72 Bow Tie Car, Maybe Theres A Number Stenciled On His Car.

[Patrick H.]

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Don,
I Think Patrick Hulst Has 72 Bow Tie Car, Maybe Theres A Number Stenciled On His Car.

Yeah, but he hasn't seen his car in a few weeks so can't yet check out stencil sizes or seat bolts.

Hopefully tomorrow....

[Patrick H.]

Re: 1972 Frame Stencil - More ???'s

My 72 (22917) has 3/4 inch high numbers, and is a -131 as you mention, Don.

They definitely aren't 1" tall, but they are all of 3/4 inch.

I checked the other 72 I'm working on, and the stencil is not visible due to rust. When I get it on the lift in about a month, I can check it out further.

Patrick

[Don L.]

Re: 1972 Frame Stencil - More ???'s

Thanks all. This is helpful to me and helpful to the hobby too. I will share what this thread has yielded with Quanta Products, as they had no difinitive information on character size for '70-'72.

Patrick, what month car is the other '72 you mention? If it's an early car with 3/4", it would seem to me that 3/4" is a slam dunk. Thanks to Dave and Bob, we know that '71s were 3/4", and your late '72 is 3/4". The only piece I see as still a bit light in confirmation is whether the stenciling at the front wheel area and the side frame rail carried into '72 model year. If Patrick's other '72 is an early car, it'll be very useful.

And oh yeah: Patrick, when you next judge my chassis, this thread will save you some time, eh?

[Patrick H.]

Re: 1972 Frame Stencil - More ???'s

Thanks all. This is helpful to me and helpful to the hobby too. I will share what this thread has yielded with Quanta Products, as they had no difinitive information on character size.

Patrick, what month car is the other '72 you mention? If it's an early car with 3/4", it would seem to me that 3/4" is a slam dunk. Thanks to Dave and Bob, we know that '71s were 3/4", and your late '72 is 3/4". The only piece I see as still a bit light in confirmation is whether the stenciling at the front wheel area and the side frame rail carried into '72 model year. If Patrick's other '72 is an early car, it'll be very useful.

And oh yeah: Patrick, when you next judge my chassis, this thread will save you some time, eh?

Don,

The other car is October. It will be at the Chapter Meet (assuming I finish it) but the frame has enough surface rust that finding the stencil may not be possible. I'll try once it's on the lift next month.

Patrick

[Don L.]

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Thanks, all for your help. I will use the 3/4" stencil and will contact Quanta and advise them of the outcome.

Patrick - please do let me know about the Oct '71 built car when you can, just to be sure.

Thanks again!