ZR1's may be short of target!

[Ronald R.]

I took delivery of my car last Thursday, the factory guys said they were shuting down until march 3rd at earliest. I asked how they were going to get 1200+ ZR1's built before mid July? He said good question, anyone think the program is in trouble? Any more than GM in general? I asked a simple question, with 10,000+ unsold Corvettes on the ground ( not selling) and a long line for ZO6's and Zr1's why not build only those. The union will not allow this as there is too much assembly time for these high end cars. Doesn't sound reasonable to me, if the parts are ther build them and slow down the line if you have to.

PS the car is a "ROCKET SHIP"!
Ronnie

[Jason B.]

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Congratulations on acquiring your ZR1. There's a long line for the Z06's? The chevy dealer here has at least six of them sitting on the back of the lot, next to the five or six standard vettes. Of course right now they're covered with about a foot of snow.

Jason

[Tom D.]

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Anybody know the UAW's arrangement for compensation for these workers?

Thanks
td

[Bill L.]

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What we do know is that their ridiculous work rules are a big part of GMs problem.

I sure hope they survive. Cannot fathom a Corvette by Honda let alone a ZR1.


Kindest Regards,




Bill

[Mark W.]

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A line in the e-mail "The union will not allow this " says it all about the US auto industry and the unions. What other organization and/or industry in the world allows the crew to drive the ship?

[Terry M.]

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My sources don't blame the union for the limits on either Z06 or ZR1 -- they blame supplier limitations.

It is all too easy to bash the laborers. Try to get some facts first.

[Mark K.]

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blame supplier limitations.

This makes far more sense. One limitation for the ZR1 is likely to be the Eaton supercharger, another could be the tooling for the 7 liter blocks for the Z06. Either way, the flexibility in production capacity is often based on what GMs suppliers were requested to "tool-up" for. While these capacities can be changed, it costs more money to change the supplier patterns already established - money that GM doesn't have at the moment.

I'd quite frankly be surprised if the union had any to say with respect to product "mix" issues.

[Jim T.]

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Congratulations on getting your ZR1 finally. Did you drive it all the way from Bowling Green to west TX? Will you and your friend with the ZR1 do a performance evaluation?

[Clem Z.]

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eaton is making the same supercharger for edelbrock for ford engines.

[Clem Z.]

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I took delivery of my car last Thursday, the factory guys said they were shuting down until march 3rd at earliest. I asked how they were going to get 1200+ ZR1's built before mid July? He said good question, anyone think the program is in trouble? Any more than GM in general? I asked a simple question, with 10,000+ unsold Corvettes on the ground ( not selling) and a long line for ZO6's and Zr1's why not build only those. The union will not allow this as there is too much assembly time for these high end cars. Doesn't sound reasonable to me, if the parts are ther build them and slow down the line if you have to.

PS the car is a "ROCKET SHIP"!
Ronnie

i understand GM has told suppliers to stop producing the "special" parts for the ZR1s. maybe because of the plant shutdown till march. there are unsold ZR1s and ZO-6s on the lots the last time i checked national dealer inventory. GM is producing the new CTS-V caddy with the ZR1 engine as rick hendrick got his last week VIN #1. jay leno is not the only one with connections to GM.

[Joe L.]

Re: ZR1's may be short of target!

What we do know is that their ridiculous work rules are a big part of GMs problem.

I sure hope they survive. Cannot fathom a Corvette by Honda let alone a ZR1.


Kindest Regards,




Bill

Bill------


I can tell you one thing: if the Corvette brand was ever taken up by Honda, you could count on one hell of a car!

Obviously, we'd all like to see the brand stay with GM. But, if that proves to be impossible, I think that it would be better to have a "Corvette by Honda" than no Corvette, at all. The Corvette brand couldn't have a better "adoptive parent" than Honda. MUCH better than a lot of other possibilities I could think of.

[Kevin G.]

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i understand GM has told suppliers to stop producing the "special" parts for the ZR1s. maybe because of the plant shutdown till march. there are unsold ZR1s and ZO-6s on the lots the last time i checked national dealer inventory. GM is producing the new STS-V caddy with the ZR1 engine as rick hendrick got his last week VIN #1. jay leno is not the only one with connections to GM.

Clem, I believe that you meant to say the CTS V. It's got a lot of bells and whistles for 60,000! I'd love to have one!

Kevin

EDIT: Learn something new every day, after a quick goggle I just learned that Caddy has the CTS, STS, and the XLR all V's! Back to the ZR 1...............

[Clem Z.]

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[quote=Kevin Goodman (43429);386147]Clem, I believe that you ment to say the CTS V. It's got a lot of bells and whistles for 60,000! I'd love to have one!

thanks i corrected it. if i could not afford both a sedan and a new corvette that would be my choice as you would have the best of both worlds. if you want to build your own ZR1 the complete engines are for sale in the GM 2009 performance parts catalog part #19201990

[Ronald R.]

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Per the plant assy mgr. the brakes and the carbon fiber are the log jams, the other is the additional time to assemble the ZO6 and ZR1 and they slow the line down. They produce 13 cars per hour and 6 ZR1's per day. If the do come back after the break they plan to produce 13 ZR1's per day and 11 total cars per hour. I don't blame the unions, i blame managment for accepting the terms. GM has been loosing money long before this slow down and needs a total redo. When you loose less money paying your workers to stay home than building cars something is wrong.
RDR

[Ronald R.]

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The weather was bad so i had to trailer, I have 200 miles on the car now and have had a few runins. My ZO6 ran heads up with the new 600 HP Viper so the V10 ran and hid from the ZR1!