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  • Gary S.
    Infrequent User
    • January 1, 2005
    • 28

    C1 Questions

    Hi, my name is Gary Sparks and this is my first question on the new TDB. I have asked for help on the old board and was greatly pleased with the results. Thanks to all those who helped me then. Ain't this a GREAT organization?
    I'm doing a restoration of sorts on my 1958. I've come upon a problem with the brake lines. In the various publications, it seems there are small holes in the front cross member for a clip on either side to hold the steel brake line. My cross member doesn't have holes there. Should it have them? Can someone tell me how to locate where the holes should be if I have to drill them?
    Part 2 of this plea for help is how do you reassemble the rear tag light assemblies once they've been rechromed and new gaskets etc. As you surely know, originally they were assembled without screws and instead "rivets" were peened over to hold the parts together. Any suggestions as to how to put humpty back together again?
    Last edited by Gary S.; April 8, 2008, 11:37 PM. Reason: Forgot 2nd part of my question
  • Rob M.
    NCRS IT Developer
    • January 1, 2004
    • 12621

    #2
    Re: C1 Questions

    From your mail I concluded you have the brackets removed from the actual taill ligh assembly. You shouldn't have done that. If I'm correct the whole unit was chromed in one piece (including the rivits). I persume it shouldn't be a real problem to rivit them using similar rivits but obviously they won't be chromed then...

    Regarding the brake line clip holes. I'll dig into my photo archive later today (when I'm back home) to see if I have any pictures detailing the appr. area of the needed holes.

    regards,
    Rob.
    Rob.

    NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
    NCRS Software Developer
    C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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    • Ray C.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 1, 2001
      • 1132

      #3
      Re: C1 Questions

      I have a 61 that I am currently restoring and the body is off the frame. I am not sure if the brake line routing is the same as a 61, but Paragon list the clips and lines for 53 through 62 in their 2007 catalog. Check on the motor side of the front cross member above the seam near the A-arms , left and right side for two small holes. The clips will insert in these holes. If the cross members are the same and you need locations, I can take pictures and provide measurements for you.

      Ray
      Ray Carney
      1961 Sateen Silver 270-HP
      1961 Fawn Beige 315-HP

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      • Rob M.
        NCRS IT Developer
        • January 1, 2004
        • 12621

        #4
        Re: C1 Questions

        Gary,

        Please find the location of the needed holes in this picture: http://www.c1registry.com/index.php?...d=528&uid=5036

        regards,
        Rob.
        Rob.

        NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
        NCRS Software Developer
        C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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        • Gary S.
          Infrequent User
          • January 1, 2005
          • 28

          #5
          Re: C1 Questions

          Rob, I see the holes!!! They are where I thought they might be; above and between the lower a-arm mounting holes. Thank you so much for the answer to this puzzle.
          Gary

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          • Gary S.
            Infrequent User
            • January 1, 2005
            • 28

            #6
            Re: C1 Questions

            Ray, I think you are right. the approximate location of those holes is about an inch above the seam and nearly centered between the a-arm mounting bolt holes. If that is correct, what size are the holes? Thanks so much for your help, Gary

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            • Ray C.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 1, 2001
              • 1132

              #7
              Re: C1 Questions

              I took a photo of the hole locations of the brake line clips in the front cross-member. The location of the left hole: 1 5/8" vertical and 3 3/8" horizontal to C/L of the hole. Right hole: 1 11/16" vertical and 3 1/2" horizontal to C/L or the hole. You can see the horizontal measuring point in the right side view. A 9/32 drill bit fit snuggly in the hole.

              Hope this helps Ray
              Last edited by Ray C.; January 15, 2010, 07:28 PM.
              Ray Carney
              1961 Sateen Silver 270-HP
              1961 Fawn Beige 315-HP

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              • Mike M.
                NCRS Past President
                • June 1, 1974
                • 8331

                #8
                Re: C1 Questions

                if the pair of holes for the front brake line are absent, i'd guess a 49 to 54 chevy pass car front crossmember was used to replace your original that did have the pair of holes.mike

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                • Gary S.
                  Infrequent User
                  • January 1, 2005
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Re: C1 Questions

                  Mike, Thanks for the info. I think you are right about my front cross member. I've gotten a lead on hole size and location. Thanks again, Gary

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                  • Mike M.
                    NCRS Past President
                    • June 1, 1974
                    • 8331

                    #10
                    Re: C1 Questions

                    i have a 57 corvette front crossmember you can have to use to make the pass car identical to the c-1 vettes. its on the pile to take to the salvage yard(too rusty to use). i used it to drill/weld shut the various differences in the nos 49-54 chevy pass car front crossmember i put underr my 57.there are multi[ple differences that need to be addressed to make the pas unit identical to the vette unit. i'm in maryland. have someone come get it --its on the house.mike

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                    • Gary S.
                      Infrequent User
                      • January 1, 2005
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Re: C1 Questions

                      Mike, where in Maryland are you? I'm from Balto/Harford county area originally. I live in Florida now. I still have family and friends there.

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                      • Mike M.
                        NCRS Past President
                        • June 1, 1974
                        • 8331

                        #12
                        Re: C1 Questions

                        cumberland, md. mike

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                        • Gary S.
                          Infrequent User
                          • January 1, 2005
                          • 28

                          #13
                          Re: C1 Questions

                          Well boys and girls, the holes are drilled and the clips and line are in place!! Many thanks to all. Gary
                          Mike, I don't know if my guys can get to your place to pick that piece up. If you're in a hurry to get it to the salvage yard , I guess just go ahead with your plans as I won't be up that way until August (Carlisle).
                          Last edited by Gary S.; April 15, 2008, 08:52 PM.

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                          • Mike M.
                            NCRS Past President
                            • June 1, 1974
                            • 8331

                            #14
                            Re: C1 Questions

                            did you fill(weld shut) the pass car extra holes in the x-member?judges will look for them. mike

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                            • Gary S.
                              Infrequent User
                              • January 1, 2005
                              • 28

                              #15
                              Re: C1 Questions

                              Mike, I didn't weld shut any holes on the X-member. Does that mean ALL unused holes in the piece? Gary

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