My thoughts right or wrong?

[Roy B.]

I watch and post in the NCRS forum and the CF and noticed that a higher % of questions and talk are at the CF about C1 and always have been concerning original and Mod.C1's which I like both . Are all C1's NCRS members done restoring their Corvettes and put away ? Most questions and talk are of C2's , that's OK, but people that are into C1's //there is vary little to learn here or talked about .
The mid-years are the hot thing and where the big money is now so that may explain it, because C1's interest has been around longer and most are done and put away (old hat).
Mod C1's are becoming vary hot with the new generation and older making them more derivable friendly. Most found basket cases of C1's are now going Mod. Giving up the thought of a complete restoration and may be the reason for so little concern about originality which is why NCRS forum has so little info.
I would love to have a Mod Corvette my self in a C1 and would go that way if I could find a basket case C1. So I find my self having more interest in the CF then NCRS.
Also there is less of a chance of being scolded when talking about Corvettes

[Chuck S.]

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After reading your story, and this desire you express about having a "modded" C1, I'm reminded of that scene in the movie "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" where these three escaped cons saw these three young "virgins" bathing and doing their laundry in the river. What a fortuitous development!...They met the young ladies and had a little party. Later, the three cons awakened to find their wallets and clothes, as well as the young virgins, gone.

Roy, you're spending too much time with youthful "hot-modders". Those vendors over there keep stroking these impressionable young people to sell them all kinds of aftermarket appearance and performance geegaws and trinkets for "resto-mods"...Why?...Because they can't get NOS original parts from China to sell them, and they have to make a living somehow.

Remember these old sayings, "A fool and his money are soon parted", and "Bad company corrupts good character". I wouldn't mind having a nice all original 62, but a resto-mod C1 holds no appeal for me.

[Joe T.]

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I couldn't agree more with Chuck (for my own personal taste). My '69 big block, as un-original as it may be, still begs to be restored and maintained. Like they say on "Muscle Car":
" Don't Crush'em. Restore 'em".
IMHO

[Gary H.]

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I see the appeal of resto-mods as mentioned in previous posts, but IMHO, I've NEVER seen a modified Corvette that looked as good as it did when it was original. Maybe that's one reason I'm an NCRS member

[Mike E.]

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Welcome to the technical discussion board of the National Corvette Restoration Society.

[Gary H.]

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Welcome to the technical discussion board of the National Corvette Restoration Society.

Exactly - I don't like knitting, so I don't go to knitting forums

[Paul H.]

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I enjoy both the NCRS Tech Board and the Corvette Forum. I also enjoy driving my 61. It looks bone stock right down to the hubcaps and shifter but I did put a 383 stroker in it for a little more performance. It was a NOM car when I bought it 25 years ago. There's lots of room in the hobby for everyone. Good knowledgeable people on both sights.

[Joel F.]

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There's lots of room in the hobby for everyone. Good knowledgeable people on both sights.

I agree with you Paul, live and let live.

Roy,

Somewhere in your post, I think you were asking why there are so few C-1 posts here. I do not have an answer, and I do not think there is a single reason why this might be. It could be as you said, that all the C-1's are holed up somewhere. I sort of doubt anyone who thinks C-1s aren't being restored. Rather, it is probably the fact that there were relatively few C-1s built, especially compared to C-2s. Add to that the number that have been hogged out over the years and you have a pretty small number to draw from, especially compared to the C-2s.

A similar corollary I have noticed is that over the past few years, the number of posts regarding shark restorations has stedily grown. My expectation is that it will continue in this fashion as each generation of cars becomes less contemporary and more classic.

Joel

[Tom S.]

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Roy
I am going to look at a car collection next week and it includes a 56 or 58 and a 61. If either of these are basket cases you will be the second to know! Tom

[David K.]

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Well, I am redoing a '62 right now. I have questions all the time. Yes, I have had a '62 since '72. There are so many things to remember and looking at redone cars is not always going to give me the answers to my questions. A restored car, can just be a copy of the wrongly restored car, that the last restorer copied. If you keep doing it wrong, it doesn't make it right. The current '62 I have, has been redone back in the 70's, so there are errors everywhere, because that guy just didn't know what was right.

Resto mods, I can appreciate the work, but I have no interest in the cars at all. It makes sense, I guess, to do it to a wreck, but please don't make a wreck out of a good car. JMHO

[Richard M.]

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Well, I am redoing a '62 right now. I have questions all the time. Yes, I have had a '62 since '72. There are so many things to remember and looking........ JMHO

Me too!!!! Kissimmee 2009 or BUST!!!
Story here: http://tinyurl.com/39przt
Rich

[Roy B.]

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After reading your story, and this desire you express about having a "modded" C1, I'm reminded of that scene in the movie "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" where these three escaped cons saw these three young "virgins" bathing and doing their laundry in the river. What a fortuitous development!...They met the young ladies and had a little party. Later, the three cons awakened to find their wallets and clothes, as well as the young virgins, gone.??

Roy, you're spending too much time with youthful "hot-modders". Those vendors over there keep stroking these impressionable young people to sell them all kinds of aftermarket appearance and performance geegaws and trinkets for "resto-mods"...Why?...Because they can't get NOS original parts from China to sell them, and they have to make a living somehow.

Remember these old sayings, "A fool and his money are soon parted", and "Bad company corrupts good character".?? I wouldn't mind having a nice all original 62, but a resto-mod C1 holds no appeal for me.and that's OK

OK guys I too like original Corvettes like my 55 (every nut and bolt) but also accessories as most know, but a well done mod. Is also a thing of beauty to have. I like both- that's why as I said I visit CF. I could never understand why CF and NCRS people have trouble communicating with each other.
There still Corvettes. It's just a fact that people to me "not" being a fanatic over right and wrong are people easier to be friends with. Both sides seem to criticize each other and that I don't like.
I support NCRS as well as any one els because it's one way to go but not the only way,NCRS is great at what it does and I don't wont to see it change.
I suppose if I asked the same question over at the CF I would get the same answers about NCRS.
I Like both sides but mostly NCRS's gaols to preserve the originality of a Corvette.
Lets be honest , if I drive to a NCRS meet (which I've done many times) people first decide weather the 55 is NCRS Quality, if not (you fill in the blanks)
If I drive to a "all" Corvette meet (which I've done many times) people show interest and ask question and like talking about Corvettes.

[David K.]

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Roy, Ok I will admit, I can straddle the fence. I like your accessories, I think they obvously add allot to your enjoyment of the car. My goal is to first return the car to the way it left the factory, then I can add my personal, but bolt on touches to satisfy me. Yes, the radio will probably go on the shelf, but the original will be on hand, if I want it. Someone already cut speakers into the kickpanels, but I already had a set of original kickpanels ready to replace the cut ones, when I want. In the mean time I will enjoy the tunes in sterio. I will probably not but on 6.70 tires, but a nice radial tire, since I am going to drive the car. These tires though will be of the correct white wall width on orginal wheels with factory hubcaps. I will probably never have my car judged, nothing wrong with those who do though. I am just doing the car and driving it because I want to. Heck, we are only "leasing" these cars during the short time we are here on earth anyhow.

[Kenneth B.]

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I watch and post in the NCRS forum and the CF and noticed that a higher % of questions and talk are at the CF about C1 and always have been concerning original and Mod.C1's which I like both . Are all C1's NCRS members done restoring their Corvettes and put away ? Most questions and talk are of C2's , that's OK, but people that are into C1's //there is vary little to learn here or talked about .
The mid-years are the hot thing and where the big money is now so that may explain it, because C1's interest has been around longer and most are done and put away (old hat).
Mod C1's are becoming vary hot with the new generation and older making them more derivable friendly. Most found basket cases of C1's are now going Mod. Giving up the thought of a complete restoration and may be the reason for so little concern about originality which is why NCRS forum has so little info.
I would love to have a Mod Corvette my self in a C1 and would go that way if I could find a basket case C1. So I find my self having more interest in the CF then NCRS.
Also there is less of a chance of being scolded when talking about Corvettes

ROY
I think the problem go's back to my premess that we need more than one Forum. I have said on CF & here that most people love all Corvettes. NCRS & RESTO'S. I beleave no one here will get there panties on a wad if questions were ask about customizing a C-1.
KEN

[Michael M.]

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I know I feel differently that the "core" NCRS folk, but it is what it is. Our first Vette, a '71 coupe, 383 stroker, 430 HP, 750 Edelbrock, chrome, MSD Ignition, TH400, serpentine belt, will NEVER be an NCRS car, but it is a thing of beauty. Its my wifes car, and she LOVES the damn thing, and I LOVE working on it. Is it any less a Corvette?........no. The '70 roadster and the '71 LT1 are pretty much stock, and they will stay that way. I for one, like both worlds, and plan to stay in them.