frost blue

[Sander B.]

after hours and hours of sanding the 58 got back it original color

[Sander B.]

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[Thomas B.]

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Okay I'm curious. What is that masking paper - I don't think that 3M here stocks that pattern.

[Sander B.]

[Chuck S.]

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I had figured that out...you can see Sinterklaas bringing gifts. It's nice and slick...works a lot better than newsprint, eh Sander?

Nice paint job...and if I'm not mistaken that's...(OMG) LACQUER!!!! Are you seeing this, Greg?

[Sander B.]

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I had figured that out...you can see Sinterklaas bringing gifts.

yep you have seen that correct we have sinterklaas in early december
and after that we got santa claus too

It's nice and slick...works a lot better than newsprint, eh Sander?

if you like tekst on your fresh paint job you might want to use news papers

Nice paint job...and if I'm not mistaken that's...(OMG) LACQUER!!!! Are you seeing this, Greg?

[Joel F.]

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Looks great Sander! Are you doing anything to make the BC/CC appear as lacquer? A paint job is in my future, but since I drive my cars a lot I want to use SS or BC/CC.

[Chuck S.]

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Looks great Sander! Are you doing anything to make the BC/CC appear as lacquer? A paint job is in my future, but since I drive my cars a lot I want to use SS or BC/CC.

Joel, I only said it looked like lacquer because it appeared "flat" in most areas like unbuffed lacquer. He had already sanded the last coat of clear in preparation for another coat of clear...the sanding is what gave it the "unbuffed lacquer" look. He would have to flatten all the jambs, ledges and other hidden areas that wouldn't have gotten polished.

HOWEVER...Michael Hanson gave a very good description of the minimal polishing that was done; only the flat horizontal surfaces, and the upper part of the sides. All other areas would have "reflowed" to acceptable gloss in the bake oven. His description makes me wonder how much flattening is actually necessary in the jambs and hidden areas; according to Michael, it sounds like those areas should have been close to full gloss originally...maybe a little bit off full gloss, but not a lot.

Sander, one of the great old time custom painters applies two coats of clear on top of the basecoat after the allowed time. He then lets it cure, and color sands the clear with fine paper to flatten the orange peel. He then applies another THREE coats of clear; one "bond coat" followed by two heavy wet coats. Of course, the downside is...the paint judges would never let you get away with FIVE COATS OF CLEAR! HaHaHa...

[Joel F.]

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Joel, I only said it looked like lacquer because it appeared "flat" in most areas like unbuffed lacquer. He had already sanded the last coat of clear in preparation for another coat of clear...the sanding is what gave it the "unbuffed lacquer" look. He would have to flatten all the jambs, ledges and other hidden areas that wouldn't have gotten polished.

HOWEVER...Michael Hanson gave a very good description of the minimal polishing that was done; only the flat horizontal surfaces, and the upper part of the sides. All other areas would have "reflowed" to acceptable gloss in the bake oven. His description makes me wonder how much flattening is actually necessary in the jambs and hidden areas; according to Michael, it sounds like those areas should have been close to full gloss originally...maybe a little bit off full gloss, but not a lot.

Thanks Chuck, my question was not actually based on your comment (your mention of it looking like lacquer is a coincidence) or even the pictures; I am curious of what Sander is going to do (if anything) to achieve more of a lacquer look (more below on this topic).

I have read Michael H's post on reflow and buffing, as well as those of others over the years. I also really try to study lacquer cars, and it is my opinion that lacquer does have less shine in non-buffed areas. I would not call it flat, or even semi-gloss. I think it is shinier than most semi's. But in my opinion, there is a subtle difference, and when I get to paint I will try to duplicate it without going to the other extreme. Of course whatever I can learn from those that have been there will be leveraged.