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Were carbs installed during factory engine assembly? Trying to determine if a carb date should precede the engine assembly stamped date or were they factory installed after engine assembly but before final car assembly date?
Thanks.
Garry Barnes #18531 '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG '67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
Were carbs installed during factory engine assembly? Yes Trying to determine if a carb date should precede the engine assembly stamped date or were they factory installed after engine assembly Yes but before final car assembly date? If you mean final assembly date (as in shipping date) that could have occured on the same day the carb was installed or maybe one day later. If you mean the Body Build Date (BBD) on the Trim Plate, that date would most likely be earlier (maybe even two weeks or so for Dow-Smith [AOS] bodies) than the carb install date - and possibly could have been the same day depending on what stage of completion a St. Louis body was in (?) Thanks.
Garry,
Per John Hinckley's C2 Assembly Process Presentation (available in the Database of Restoration Documents [DoRD] Sticky Post), the carb was installed at station 10 on the Engine Dress Line (ED) roughly 16 stations before engine/chassis marriage.
ED-9
Install fuel pump pushrod, mounting plate, and fuel pump
ED-10
Install carburetor, pump-to-carb fuel line, fuel filter, and choke hot air tube or remote thermostat and choke rod.
PS - Leif, I was typing my reply the same time you replied to Garry - you got done sooner than me .
Carbs were installed during engine "dressing" prior to installation on the frame. They were not installed at the engine factories.
Carbs are also found as an "install" item in the AIM pages for both SB and BB engines.
Yes, many cars have carbs dated well after the engine assembly date stamp. I once had a judge who thought they were installed at the engine plant during assembly of the engine, I had to show him he was wrong.
Okay, so now it has gotten a little more confusing. Let me make it more simple. Engine assembly date is 12/30/66, St. Louis body build date (trim tag) is 1/10/67. Birthday book says car was assembled on 1/10/67 as well, but in my experience there could be a day or two later before body met chassis. Carb is dated 713 (January 3, 1967). Not knowing how many days (hours) there were between engine assembly and the "engine dressing" when carbs were installed 6 stations prior to engine/chassis marriage. So the question is, with the original carb lost many years ago, would this 713 dated carb be feasible for this 1/10/67 car? I hear some say before engine assembly and some say after "engine dressing" and before marriage of engine to chassis. First scenario would be no, second scenario would be very possible. Thanks guys.
Garry Barnes #18531 '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG '67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
Gary, That date 713 reads Year 7 (67) Month 1 (Jan) Week 3 (3rd week) That means your carb was built after the assembly of your car. You might want to look for another carb if you want something that is not going to get you a Date deduct.
Gary, That date 713 reads Year 7 (67) Month 1 (Jan) Week 3 (3rd week) That means your carb was built after the assembly of your car. You might want to look for another carb if you want something that is not going to get you a Date deduct.
probable, a 712 carb made on Monday 1/9/1967 and shipped 1/9/67 or early 1/10/67 is theoretically possible, but it’s probably safer to go with a 711 or earlier (’66), right ?
Mark, his carb is a 713. Impossible that it could be original.
Hi Joe,
Yes, I understand and agree with that.
I guess I was asking have we ever seen Holley carbs (made not too far away in Bowling Green) dated the same week as the car rolled off the line St. Louis?
Granted, most (TFP) were probably several weeks earlier and some up to many weeks earlier.
C2- carburetor installed when?
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