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  • Todd L.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 25, 2020
    • 269

    63 Fuel injection motor mounts

    Hey guys,

    Can anyone confirm which of the attached pictures of motor mounts I have would be correct for a 63 Fuel Injected car? I have part # 2142 which is painted black, and part # 330973 which is sandblasted and mounted on the frame/block. If either one of these is not correct, could someone please tell me what the correct part # is?

    Thanks!
    Todd
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  • Alan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 2005
    • 2016

    #2
    Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

    63 AIM notes 3796050, did not find any upgrades listed for L75 or L85

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    • Todd L.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 25, 2020
      • 269

      #3
      Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

      Thanks Alan, I appreciate your help!

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      • John D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1979
        • 5507

        #4
        Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

        Todd, I cannot accurately answer your question but to tell you this. Neither of your motor mounts are the ones that Chevy sold over the counter with a long list of applications. I have a NOSR #6258154 that does not look at all like yours. Just had it in my hands two days ago. Instruction sheets which are in bad shape say the years and different model of Chevys that it fits. Some with alterations.
        Your mount are the earlier style.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43133

          #5
          Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

          Originally posted by Todd Lawson (67502)
          Hey guys,

          Can anyone confirm which of the attached pictures of motor mounts I have would be correct for a 63 Fuel Injected car? I have part # 2142 which is painted black, and part # 330973 which is sandblasted and mounted on the frame/block. If either one of these is not correct, could someone please tell me what the correct part # is?

          Thanks!
          Todd

          Todd------


          The 330973 is a GM locking style motor mount and the 2142 is an aftermarket locking style motor mount, probably an Anchor brand. Locking style mounts were not used on Corvettes until the 1970 model year. However, they have been GM SERVICE for 1963-69 since 1970.

          The original mounts for your car are long since GM discontinued and will be virtually impossible to find in NOS form.

          I recommend the use of the locking style mounts for all 1963-82 Corvettes, correct or not.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Todd L.
            Very Frequent User
            • November 25, 2020
            • 269

            #6
            Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

            Thank you for the detail Joe. Do you feel the locking style, even if not the correct part #, will pass NCRS judging?

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            • Don H.
              Moderator
              • June 17, 2009
              • 2201

              #7
              Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

              Todd
              depends what you mean by pass judging. Locking engine mounts are a service replacement part. They will take a deduct for Configuration and Date. 40% of possible originality points. So what are they worth? The second line of the Mechanical judging sheets says front engine mounts and ground strap. Five Originality points. If a judge were to break out the 5 points by say four for the engine mounts, and one for the ground strap, then 40% of four would be 1.6 Originality. A judge could deduct one for your later mounts, or at most two. Given this, do the locking mounts pass judging or not?

              ps, I should have also considered the finish of the metal part. If the originals were bare natural steel, and your service replacement parts are say zinc plated, that would be a third aspect of the CDCIF matrix. Finish. So you could take a 60% Originality deduct. 60% of Four is 2.4. That would ensure a two point deduct.
              Last edited by Don H.; February 16, 2021, 10:38 AM.

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43133

                #8
                Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                Originally posted by Todd Lawson (67502)
                Thank you for the detail Joe. Do you feel the locking style, even if not the correct part #, will pass NCRS judging?

                Todd-----

                It's just as Don describes.

                My recommendation to use the locking style mounts is not based on NCRS "correctness". It's based on safety and damage prevention. If a non-locking style motor mount breaks, the engine can move up enough on one side to break other components like the fan, fan shroud, and hood. It's just not worth the risk for a judging point or two. GM did not go to the locking style mounts because the non-locking style worked just as well. They do work just as well, though, until the non-locking style breaks. If you plan on a "trailer queen"-only type car, then, by all means, use the non-locking style mounts.

                It's more important now than ever. Most, if not all, of the non-locking style mounts available on the market are very cheap, foreign made parts. I would be far more concerned about them breaking than the old GM mounts.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Todd L.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 25, 2020
                  • 269

                  #9
                  Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                  Well... when I initially thought I was looking for a part #, I didn't realize I would get such wisdom and knowledge of something as simple as a motor mount part #. This is my first complete restoration of a Corvette, and first NCRS build, so I have much to learn. I really appreciate the perspective of everyone that has posted here, and I am grateful for your time in responding. I am excited to learn the history of these cars and honored to have the opportunity to restore a 63 split window. Thanks again for all the suggestions from everyone!

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                  • John D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • December 1, 1979
                    • 5507

                    #10
                    Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                    How do the reproduction motor mounts compare to the originals.

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                    • Tom R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 1, 1993
                      • 4060

                      #11
                      Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                      Joe
                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      My recommendation to use the locking style mounts is not based on NCRS "correctness". It's based on safety and damage prevention.

                      It's more important now than ever. Most, if not all, of the non-locking style mounts available on the market are very cheap, foreign made parts. I would be far more concerned about them breaking than the old GM mounts.
                      What makes the locking-style engine mounts more safe? What's the functional aspect of a safety-style engine mount?
                      Tom Russo

                      78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
                      78 Pace Car L82 M21
                      00 MY/TR/Conv

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                      • David H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 1, 2001
                        • 1435

                        #12
                        Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                        Originally posted by Tom Russo (22903)
                        Joe

                        What makes the locking-style engine mounts more safe? What's the functional aspect of a safety-style engine mount?
                        Tom

                        Locking mounts have a "T" appendage that prevents catastrophic failure. See Below - Non-Locking & Locking Style.

                        Dave

                        Sorry, images did not transfer. Link below.


                        https://www.corvettecentral.com/c2-6...ounts-bolts%2f



                        Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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                        • Todd L.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • November 25, 2020
                          • 269

                          #13
                          Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                          Hey guys,

                          From my research, the attached photo is of a correct original motor mount (left unpainted) and a correct reproduction. I don't believe the CC part # is correct listed in the previous link.

                          Todd
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                          • David H.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • July 1, 2001
                            • 1435

                            #14
                            Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                            Originally posted by Todd Lawson (67502)
                            ... I don't believe the CC part # is correct listed in the previous link. ...Todd

                            Todd

                            Link was to an example of a LOCKING mount re Tom Russo's question.

                            Dave
                            Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43133

                              #15
                              Re: 63 Fuel injection motor mounts

                              Originally posted by Tom Russo (22903)
                              Joe

                              What makes the locking-style engine mounts more safe? What's the functional aspect of a safety-style engine mount?

                              Tom-------


                              When a broken motor mount occurs and the engine "torques over" lots of bad things can happen. As I mentioned above, damage to the fan, fan shroud, and hood can occur. In addition, when these things occur, they can cause other bad things to occur, including the driver losing control of the car, at least momentarily.

                              GM went to the locking style mounts in 1970 for all models. Some 1969 models (although not Corvette) were recalled and fitted with a "cable-and-bracket" retrofit device to prevent engine "torque-over" if the non locking mounts failed. GM did not do this because engine mount failure caused only inconsequential problems.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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