flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

[Gary B.]

Does anyone know of a specific flattening agent that is compatible with the Chevy orange engine enamel paint that Bill Hirsch Auto sells by the quart. I contacted Hirsch by email and the person said he did not know of a compatible product.

Thanks,

Gary

[Dick W.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

This works with enamel http://www.1shot.com/getmedia/931a07...tives.pdf.aspx

[Gary B.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Thanks Dick.

Gary

[Joe L.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Does anyone know of a specific flattening agent that is compatible with the Chevy orange engine enamel paint that Bill Hirsch Auto sells by the quart. I contacted Hirsch by email and the person said he did not know of a compatible product.

Thanks,

Gary

Gary------


I have found the Bill Hirsch engine paints to be just about right with respect to gloss level. In fact, they are about the only paints I know of that are right in this regard. The problem that I had with the Hirsch paints is that I didn't think the color was right. But, the gloss level was perfect.

[Gary B.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Joe,

My intended use of the paint is for dipping a portion of my steering knuckles. I have indeed looked thru the archives and read your and others' previous postings about sheen and orange/red/pink tint to the color. My plan is to also procure some "Q-108 Spindle Orange" from Quanta and compare that with the Hirsch Chevrolet orange. I have to think there are lots of restored cars with Quanta's paint on the spindles, so I assume that color passes judging muster. But I don't know whether Quanta sells their paint by the quart. I'd rather not have to buy qty=16 of Quanta's 2 oz bottles for $128 + S&H.

Gary

[Gary B.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Gary------


I have found the Bill Hirsch engine paints to be just about right with respect to gloss level. In fact, they are about the only paints I know of that are right in this regard. The problem that I had with the Hirsch paints is that I didn't think the color was right. But, the gloss level was perfect.

Joe,

Was it your feeling that the Hirsch orange didn't have enough red, so it was too orange?

Gary

[Joe L.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Joe,

Was it your feeling that the Hirsch orange didn't have enough red, so it was too orange?

Gary

Gary-----


Yes, it was lacking enough red and too orange. However, it was more than that; there's something else that's "just not quite right" about it. Here's what it looks like:


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[Gary B.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Joe,'

Granted it's nearly impossible to judge colors in a photo, but to my eye that color looks pretty reasonable. The original clutch inspection shield from my '66 has it's original paint, as does the forward half of my bell housing. And those seem pretty orange to me.

Also, what you show does not look to glossy. Did you spray it in a way intended to reduce the gloss?

Gary

[Joe L.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Joe,'

Granted it's nearly impossible to judge colors in a photo, but to my eye that color looks pretty reasonable. The original clutch inspection shield from my '66 has it's original paint, as does the forward half of my bell housing. And those seem pretty orange to me.

Also, what you show does not look to glossy. Did you spray it in a way intended to reduce the gloss?

Gary

Gary-----


Chevrolet orange varied over the years. The 1969-era orange had much more red in it than is seen in this photo. I'm not sure what the Chevrolet orange was like in 1966.

I did not use any special spray method to apply the paint. So, the gloss level was just as supplied.

[Gary B.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

The sheen doesn't look too glossy to me by any means.

Gary

[Joe L.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

The sheen doesn't look too glossy to me by any means.

Gary

Gary-----


No, the degree of gloss is near perfect. As I mentioned, that's the real strong point of the Hirsch paint. I once tested a large number of various brands of engine paint. I adjudged all were way too glossy except for the Hirsch paint.

[Dick W.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Thanks Dick.

Gary

I in a class on Zoom right now, but when I get off I will go out in the shop and get you a PPG paint code number. I worked with PPG and they sent my jobber what is supposed to be the original color. I really liked the results when I used it. Several Duntov and Bloomington Gold awards and no calls on the engine color

[Gary B.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Dick,

Don't go out of your way. I wouldn't know what to do with the paint codes if I had them. I assume it's not as simple as driving over to my local Kelly-Moore paint store and handing them the codes. I take it a specialty auto paint store with access to PPG paints would have to make up the paint?

Gary

[Dick W.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Dick,

Don't go out of your way. I wouldn't know what to do with the paint codes if I had them. I assume it's not as simple as driving over to my local Kelly-Moore paint store and handing them the codes. I take it a specialty auto paint store with access to PPG paints would have to make up the paint?

Gary

paint.jpgCode is MAE 60524 which is actually a Ford fleet orange slightly flattened. It is an enamel that sprays very well.

[Joe L.]

Re: flatten agent compatible with Bill Hirsch enamel paint

Dick------


This paint appears to have more red in it than the Bill Hirsch paint, at least the version I used.

Below are photos of my original 1969 valve covers. I removed from the car very early in its life and replaced them with L-46 valve covers. The color seen in the photos very well represents the original color.

1969originalvalvecovers.pdf