C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Thomas N.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 1, 2002
    • 375

    C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

    Hi:
    I am tearing apart a 67 rear end, and the rear end yoke has balancing weights on it. My question is are these weights to balance the yoke only, or is it balance for the entire rear end? The reason I'm asking is if it is to balance the entire rear end, I'm replacing the ring and pinion with a new set, and putting in a stronger posi basket and gears, and if would probably be not the same balance required. I appreciate any information you can provide.
    NCRS New England Chapter Chairman 2022, 2024
    N E Regional Chairman 2024
    1967 Corvette Convertible Under Restoration
    1996 Corvette Coupe NCRS Chapter Top Flight 99.5, NCRS National Top Flight 100.0
  • Gene M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1985
    • 4232

    #2
    Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

    I’ve not seen balance weights on the yokes on any cars worked on.

    Do you have photos of these?

    Comment

    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43133

      #3
      Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

      Originally posted by Thomas Nowak (10784)
      Hi:
      I am tearing apart a 67 rear end, and the rear end yoke has balancing weights on it. My question is are these weights to balance the yoke only, or is it balance for the entire rear end? The reason I'm asking is if it is to balance the entire rear end, I'm replacing the ring and pinion with a new set, and putting in a stronger posi basket and gears, and if would probably be not the same balance required. I appreciate any information you can provide.
      Thomas-------

      The weights are sometimes seen on the deflector attached to the pinion yoke. When present, they are usually small, rectangular metal tabs spot-welded to the deflector. Usually, only one or two tabs are present but I have seen as many as 5, as I recall. However, I have never seen such weights on GM SERVICE pinion yokes which are supplied with deflector. Unless this is only peculiar to the particular SERVICE yokes I've seen, this would lead me to believe that the balance weights were added as part of the differential carrier manufacturing process.

      As far as trying to rebalance a differential after parts are replaced, I've never heard of anyone doing it and I don't think there is any capability in the field SERVICE world to do it.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

      Comment

      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43133

        #4
        Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

        A described weight can be seen on the original pinion yoke on my 1969:
        Attached Files
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

        Comment

        • Jim D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 1, 1985
          • 2882

          #5
          Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

          I don't recall ever seeing an original yoke without a balance tab.
          Attached Files

          Comment

          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43133

            #6
            Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

            Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
            I don't recall ever seeing an original yoke without a balance tab.


            Jim-------


            I've seen some that did not have it (or, evidence of one ever being present) but they are, by far, the minority.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

            Comment

            • Richard G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 1, 1984
              • 1708

              #7
              Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

              "is to balance the entire rear end, I'm replacing the ring and pinion with a new set, and putting in a stronger posi basket and gears, and if would probably be not the same balance required. "

              Best guess is the yolk was static balanced. This would have been before it was assembled to the pinion gear.
              The yolk is a forging the center of gravity will vary.
              Because the input shaft is a machined part it is much easier to control the amount of unbalance.
              If it was me, I would just reinstall the yolk, as it, on the new gears.
              Rick

              Comment

              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43133

                #8
                Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

                Originally posted by Richard Geier (7745)
                "is to balance the entire rear end, I'm replacing the ring and pinion with a new set, and putting in a stronger posi basket and gears, and if would probably be not the same balance required. "

                Best guess is the yolk was static balanced. This would have been before it was assembled to the pinion gear.
                The yolk is a forging the center of gravity will vary.
                Because the input shaft is a machined part it is much easier to control the amount of unbalance.
                If it was me, I would just reinstall the yolk, as it, on the new gears.
                Rick
                Rick------


                That's possible. However, if that were the case, I don't understand why it was not done on GM SERVICE flanges.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

                Comment

                • Richard G.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 1, 1984
                  • 1708

                  #9
                  Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

                  Joe
                  Good point.
                  However, having worked for big corporations for many years I understand anything is possible.
                  All it takes is one retiree and good practices go out the window.

                  Comment

                  • Thomas N.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • August 1, 2002
                    • 375

                    #10
                    Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

                    Thanks for the responses. I for some unknown reason am unable to post pics, but the above show exactly what I have. I figured the balance was for the casting only, but wanted to see if others had any insight.
                    NCRS New England Chapter Chairman 2022, 2024
                    N E Regional Chairman 2024
                    1967 Corvette Convertible Under Restoration
                    1996 Corvette Coupe NCRS Chapter Top Flight 99.5, NCRS National Top Flight 100.0

                    Comment

                    • Darryl D.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • February 7, 2017
                      • 386

                      #11
                      Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

                      Originally posted by Richard Geier (7745)
                      "is to balance the entire rear end, I'm replacing the ring and pinion with a new set, and putting in a stronger posi basket and gears, and if would probably be not the same balance required. "

                      Best guess is the yolk was static balanced. This would have been before it was assembled to the pinion gear.
                      The yolk is a forging the center of gravity will vary.
                      Because the input shaft is a machined part it is much easier to control the amount of unbalance.
                      If it was me, I would just reinstall the yolk, as it, on the new gears.
                      Rick
                      So, does this mean you need to pay attention to the original position before disassembly so it can be re-installed in the same position?
                      Current Corvettes owned 1957 two top stealth 383 dual quads--1965 original low mileage 300 h.p. coupe.

                      Other Corvettes owned over the years:
                      1954. 1957 AIRBOX FI. Two 1958s one FI, One 2x4. 1961. 1964 convertible A/C auto trans. Two 1965s one coupe with 300 h.p. loaded A/C car, one 365 h.p. convertible Two 1966s one loaded A/C, BB coupe one loaded A/C, SB coupe. Two 1968s one BB convert, 1969 BB coupe. 1971. 1973. 1978 L-82. 1985, 1986 both 4+3s.

                      Comment

                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43133

                        #12
                        Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

                        Originally posted by Darryl Dayton (63266)
                        So, does this mean you need to pay attention to the original position before disassembly so it can be re-installed in the same position?
                        Darryl-------


                        Well, whether it's essential I doubt but that's what I would do if I was re-installing a pinion flange on the pinion gear shaft it was removed from.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

                        Comment

                        • Perry M.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 1, 1977
                          • 325

                          #13
                          Re: C2 Rear End Yoke Balancing

                          Such a small part with a small circumference, the inertia can't be much. Personally, I have never seen a weight on any of the cars I've owned, Corvettes or passenger cars. I know drive shafts are balanced but how many of you reinstall them in the exact same location on the yoke? When I had my half shafts shortened, the company that did the work said it was not worth the effort or expense to balance them because the inertia value was nearly undetectable. I realize the half shafts rotate 3 to 4 times slower than the yoke/driveshaft. If it were me, I would just reinstall the yoke.

                          Comment

                          Working...
                          Searching...Please wait.
                          An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because you have logged in since the previous page was loaded.

                          Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                          An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

                          Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                          An internal error has occurred and the module cannot be displayed.
                          There are no results that meet this criteria.
                          Search Result for "|||"