Engine Related Judging Question for C2

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  • John L.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 1, 1993
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    Engine Related Judging Question for C2

    A friend of mine is looking at a '65 396 which at one point was NCRS judged. He has seen the judging sheets, and as they relate to the engine pad, the notations are "deviated" and NTP (not typical production) So I assume this means the engine is not correct for the car?
  • Alan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 2005
    • 2016

    #2
    Re: Engine Related Judging Question for C2

    Not necessarily so! You will need to determine just what was not "liked" and where were points lost.
    Perhaps a picture if possible would help get more feedback.

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    • Mark E.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1993
      • 4457

      #3
      Re: Engine Related Judging Question for C2

      I attended a presentation about block broaching and engine pads during the Frisco Regional judging class.

      They showed slides of original pads with irregular character spacing, double stamping, grind-outs and other odd things caused by rework, reassignments and other production situations.

      On the other hand, we saw photos of engine pads which looked "normal" (and certainly more tidy) to me, yet were fakes.
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      • Gene M.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1985
        • 4232

        #4
        Re: Engine Related Judging Question for C2

        Originally posted by John Lokay (22011)
        A friend of mine is looking at a '65 396 which at one point was NCRS judged. He has seen the judging sheets, and as they relate to the engine pad, the notations are "deviated" and NTP (not typical production) So I assume this means the engine is not correct for the car?
        At the finish of each section the pair of judges verbally review the deductions taken on said car. The review should be to the owners understand or he may ask questions to further his understanding of said deducts. Understand the evulation is only good for that place in time. Who knows what happens after the fact.

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        • Bob R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 1, 2002
          • 1594

          #5
          Re: Engine Related Judging Question for C2

          I don't have the score sheets available right now but the scoring for the engine is broken down into a few areas. First does the engine have the correct block number ( a 396 should be 3855962) if so then go on to the block date is it within 6 months of the build date of the car, then you look at the engine pad for serial number and suffix then broaching.

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          • Michael J.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 27, 2009
            • 7033

            #6
            Re: Engine Related Judging Question for C2

            Yes, you are correct in the engine judging sequence. But for the OP to say the engine is "not correct for the car" is a vague way to look at it. If he meant the engine is not the original engine the car was born with in St. Louis, then that is more specific and apparently accurate for this engine as judged.
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            • Carl N.
              Expired
              • May 1, 1984
              • 592

              #7
              Re: Engine Related Judging Question for C2

              I would suggest a second or third opinion. IMO not all Judging opinions are always correct - just saying -

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