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  • Dave S.
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    • September 1, 1992
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    1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

    My car is a Feb 26 build convertible. It has what I believe is the original hardtop with a window dated coded A F. The Judging Guide indicates that A is for Jenuary which seems right but the year should be E. I've looked closely at my "F" to see if it might be an "E" but it doesn't appear to be. Are there any 65 garu's out there that may have some insight into this.?
  • Jim D.
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    • July 1, 1985
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    Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

    The hardtop rear window on my early May 65 is E/B (Feb. 65).

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    • Dave S.
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      • September 1, 1992
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      Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

      Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
      The hardtop rear window on my early May 65 is E/B (Feb. 65).

      Thanks Jim. Yours is right in line with the judging guide.
      in my case to further complicate things my "A" (for January) is in the lower left and the "F" is in the upper right. Likely a human error but........

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      • Jim D.
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        • July 1, 1985
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        Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

        Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
        Thanks Jim. Yours is right in line with the judging guide.
        in my case to further complicate things my "A" (for January) is in the lower left and the "F" is in the upper right. Likely a human error but........
        They changed the format for 66-67. A "F" in the upper right indicates a 1966 and a "G" indicates 1967. The month stamp for those two years would be in the lower left, the opposite of the 1965 format. Your stamp indicates a Jan. 1966 date.

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        • Dave S.
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          Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

          JIm,
          Thanks. That explains things. This car was equipped with a hardtop when new (as per window sticker) but I guess somehow along the way this 1966 top was acquired. It's a beautiful original top but I don't want to invest in repainting it if it has the wrong dated window.
          Last edited by Dave S.; November 8, 2016, 12:59 PM. Reason: Spelling

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          • Jim D.
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            • July 1, 1985
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            Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

            Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
            JIm,
            Thanks. That explains things. This car was equipped with a hardtop when new (as per window sticker) but I guess somehow along the way this 1966 top was acquired. It's a beautiful original top but I don't want to invest in repainting it if it has the wrong dated window.
            Possibly the rear window was replaced and that is the original top for your car.

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            • Dave S.
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              Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

              Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
              Possibly the rear window was replaced and that is the original top for your car.
              Jim,
              Obviously it is a judging problem so it's best to just replace the window. It needs a repaint and a headliner so I think that's what I will do.
              Thanks for the guidance.

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              • Edward J.
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                • September 16, 2008
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                Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

                Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
                My car is a Feb 26 build convertible. It has what I believe is the original hardtop with a window dated coded A F. The Judging Guide indicates that A is for Jenuary which seems right but the year should be E. I've looked closely at my "F" to see if it might be an "E" but it doesn't appear to be. Are there any 65 garu's out there that may have some insight into this.?
                Dave, do think you would like a 10/64 dated rear hardtop glass? I have one and I would consider pretty good shape, So the dating may work??
                New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                • Wayne M.
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                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 6414

                  #9
                  Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

                  Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
                  Thanks Jim. Yours is right in line with the judging guide.
                  in my case to further complicate things my "A" (for January) is in the lower left and the "F" is in the upper right. Likely a human error but........
                  Here's the one on`my late '65 (not the original top). I interpret the upper right as May, and the lower left corner as calendar 1965.

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                  • Dave S.
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                    Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

                    Ed,
                    you have mail

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                    • Gene M.
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                      • April 1, 1985
                      • 4232

                      #11
                      Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

                      Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
                      My car is a Feb 26 build convertible. It has what I believe is the original hardtop with a window dated coded A F. The Judging Guide indicates that A is for Jenuary which seems right but the year should be E. I've looked closely at my "F" to see if it might be an "E" but it doesn't appear to be. Are there any 65 garu's out there that may have some insight into this.?
                      Dave,
                      Here is my thought on the E & F characters. Are not the digits set one at a time? That's my impression. Being that the case if an "E" is not set flat with the window I could see the bottom leg of the "E" be unimpressed leaving you with a"F".

                      Did you put an eye loop to it? Maybe you will see more.

                      In my experiences the digit size, tilt, attitude, and depth of impression is all over the map on original known tops. And yes this makes it easier to "fabricate dates" that look typical.

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                      • Dave S.
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                        • September 1, 1992
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                        Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

                        Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
                        Dave,
                        Here is my thought on the E & F characters. Are not the digits set one at a time? That's my impression. Being that the case if an "E" is not set flat with the window I could see the bottom leg of the "E" be unimpressed leaving you with a"F".

                        Did you put an eye loop to it? Maybe you will see more.

                        In my experiences the digit size, tilt, attitude, and depth of impression is all over the map on original known tops. And yes this makes it easier to "fabricate dates" that look typical.
                        Gene,
                        i did look at it magnified. If it was a mis-hit it was a perfect one. As I mentioned of further issue is that the location of the month and year Stampings are reversed. Apparently 66 up did it different than 65.

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                        • Jim D.
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                          • July 1, 1985
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                          Re: 1965 Hardtop Window Date Code Question

                          Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
                          As I mentioned of further issue is that the location of the month and year Stampings are reversed. Apparently 66 up did it different than 65.
                          That is correct.

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