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  • Loren L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 1, 1976
    • 4104

    NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

    Lot S132.1 at the Indianapolis carries the claim of an "NCRS validated tank sticker" - just how are we doing this?
  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7033

    #2
    Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

    I have one.
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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    • Loren L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 1, 1976
      • 4104

      #3
      Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

      You have one what? How would it be considered "validated" for a Mecum Auction testimonial?

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      • Tom R.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 1, 1993
        • 4060

        #4
        Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

        Originally posted by Loren Lundberg (912)
        Lot S132.1 at the Indianapolis carries the claim of an "NCRS validated tank sticker" - just how are we doing this?
        Mecum elected to "rename" the NCRS service, or dumb it down from Document Validation Service to NCRS validated tank sticker for the purpose of enhancing the marketability of the vehicle. It means someone with expertise on staff with NCRS looks at electronic copies of a paper document with the tank sticker only one of many that can be validated.

        It means NCRS, an individual quite familiar with Corvette sales and production documents is of such authority that he can differentiate original documents from fraudulent documents that could be used document high-valued options.

        Here's the NCRS definition of the service:
        Document Validation Service
        NCRS will compare any of your GM documents to the GM records contained in the Shipping Report and if verification can be achieved, will establish the authenticity of your factory documents. Unfortunately, the shipping report does not contain the vehicle options. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record. The cost for this service will be $100.00 USD. Pay by Credit Card or PayPal.

        If you go to the menu above Services/Historic Document Services and enter some data fields, it will introduce you to the service and you'll get the idea.
        Tom Russo

        78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
        78 Pace Car L82 M21
        00 MY/TR/Conv

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        • Terry M.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • October 1, 1980
          • 15541

          #5
          Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

          Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
          I have one.
          Most of us have one, or at least I hope so.
          Terry

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          • Mark D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 1, 1988
            • 2136

            #6
            Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

            Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
            Most of us have one, or at least I hope so.
            Jose has two...oh, never mind.
            Kramden

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            • Vinnie P.
              Editor NCRS Restorer Magazine
              • June 1, 1990
              • 1539

              #7
              Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

              Originally posted by Mark Donnally (13264)
              Jose has two...oh, never mind.

              Does josb have any?

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              • Mark D.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 1, 1988
                • 2136

                #8
                Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                Originally posted by Vinnie Peters (17535)
                Does josb have any?
                Kramden

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                • Richard M.
                  Super Moderator
                  • September 1, 1988
                  • 11243

                  #9
                  Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                  Loren, It is my understanding that the Tank Sheet can be validated via a unique number that appears on it. This is the 6 digit "IDENT Number". I have also discovered that the Window Sticker also has this IDENT #.

                  The NCRS has the Shipping Data Reports. This IDENT# appears on those documents.

                  If the IDENT# on the Shipping Report is identical to the Tank Sheet IDENT#, then this match confirms that the Tank Sheet (or Window Sticker), and the information listed on it, is then validated.

                  The IDENT# is in the upper Left corner of Tank Sheets, and upper right of Window Stickers.

                  I still need to confirm all of this with the NCRS Document Validation Service, but this is what I've been told by many others knowledgeable of the process.

                  Rich

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                  • Michael J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 27, 2009
                    • 7033

                    #10
                    Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                    It was simple, I sent in a high quality scan of my tank sticker (as requested in the NCRS Document Validation Service), Roy looked at it, and sent me back a neat letter with a raised seal that states your car's VIN and says: "Subject to the general conditions listed on the reverse side, National Corvette Restorers Society, Inc., confirms the following documents (shows Order Copy (tank sheet)) "HAVE BEEN VALIDATED" and appear to be authentic, per information contained in the GM shipping data records....."

                    This has been going on for many years, and yes any reasonable person could interpret this as "an NCRS validated tank sticker".
                    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                    • Tom R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 1, 1993
                      • 4060

                      #11
                      Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                      Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                      It was simple, I sent in a high quality scan of my tank sticker (as requested in the NCRS Document Validation Service), Roy looked at it, and sent me back a neat letter with a raised seal that states your car's VIN and says: "Subject to the general conditions listed on the reverse side, National Corvette Restorers Society, Inc., confirms the following documents (shows Order Copy (tank sheet)) "HAVE BEEN VALIDATED" and appear to be authentic, per information contained in the GM shipping data records.
                      Is the process objective or subjective...data-base driven or experience based?

                      I like the appear to be authentic waffle language. Compare this to the auctioneer's interpretation.
                      Tom Russo

                      78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
                      78 Pace Car L82 M21
                      00 MY/TR/Conv

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                      • Tom R.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 1, 1993
                        • 4060

                        #12
                        Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                        Most of us have one, or at least I hope so.
                        The jury is out on Caitlyn Jenner! Or is it in?
                        Tom Russo

                        78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
                        78 Pace Car L82 M21
                        00 MY/TR/Conv

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                        • Michael J.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 27, 2009
                          • 7033

                          #13
                          Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                          Appears to be data-base driven, but don't know for sure. And all the auction listing says is: "NCRS Validated Tank Sticker", which would be a true statement if the letter from NCRS is valid and there, as that IS what it says on the NCRS letter. It also claims an NCRS Top Flight Award, CCAS engine affirmation, and Bloomington certification, all easy enough to check.
                          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                          • Gene M.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1985
                            • 4232

                            #14
                            Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                            Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                            Appears to be data-base driven, but don't know for sure. And all the auction listing says is: "NCRS Validated Tank Sticker", which would be a true statement if the letter from NCRS is valid and there, as that IS what it says on the NCRS letter. It also claims an NCRS Top Flight Award, CCAS engine affirmation, and Bloomington certification, all easy enough to check.
                            Sorry just ignorant, but what is CCAS?

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                            • Michael J.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 27, 2009
                              • 7033

                              #15
                              Re: NCRS "validation of tank sticker"

                              Al Grenning's "validation" service, some consider it the gold standard:
                              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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