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  • John S.
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    • May 18, 2009
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    1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

    Can someone advise the tire brands available for tires in 1965? And width of whitewall? Thanks, John
  • Mike E.
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    • June 25, 2012
    • 920

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    Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

    Originally posted by John Schwamm (50432)
    Can someone advise the tire brands available for tires in 1965? And width of whitewall? Thanks, John
    Per the Fifth Edition 1965 judging guide an original bias ply tire has a recessed white wall approximately 1" wide in a size of 7.75-15 with trade names:

    Goodyear Power Cushion
    Firestone Deluxe Champion
    US Royal Laredo
    B.F. Goodrich Silvertone 660 or 770
    General Jet-Air II


    Mike

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    • James W.
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      • December 1, 1990
      • 2612

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      Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

      I put the Goodyear Power Cushion repros on the '65 that I just finished restoring. When I asked the question about the bias ply repros I was told that the Goodyears from Kelsey Tire were the closest to orignals for judging.

      James

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      • Ara G.
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        • January 31, 2008
        • 1108

        #4
        Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

        Originally posted by James West (18379)
        I put the Goodyear Power Cushion repros on the '65 that I just finished restoring. When I asked the question about the bias ply repros I was told that the Goodyears from Kelsey Tire were the closest to orignals for judging.

        James
        The Goodyears from Kelsey are the BEST on the market, and the nicest looking ones too IMO

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        • Michael J.
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          • January 27, 2009
          • 7033

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          Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

          Originally posted by Ara Gechijian (48542)
          The Goodyears from Kelsey are the BEST on the market, and the nicest looking ones too IMO
          True, and I would agree, but as Kelsey says on their website about these tires:

          "2 ply nylon tubeless. Nylon body plies then and now. Critical for class judging. Remember, nylon has a memory, which you will feel, and leaves the vehicle environment when the normal tire operating temperature is reached. Could take somewhat longer in December than July. Usually five or so continuous miles of driving are all that is needed."

          In other words, they will flat spot when cold and have been sitting for a time.
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Wayne M.
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            • March 1, 1980
            • 6414

            #6
            Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

            Originally posted by John Schwamm (50432)
            Can someone advise the tire brands available for tires in 1965? And width of whitewall? Thanks, John
            Here's a photo from the Nov 21 1964 delivery of the fifteen 1965 Shriner cars. Scaling off this wheel, and knowing that the wheelcover diameter is 15.08", the whitewall is then 1.04" wide, and its inner edge starts 1.40" from the edge of the wheelcover. Obviously, don't know the brand of this particular tire.



            c

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            • Mike E.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 25, 2012
              • 920

              #7
              Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

              Wayne,

              Could very early cars had wider white walls? Perhaps it just the angle but this Red '65 with knock offs sure looks wider. The gap between the wheel and the white wall looks much narrower than the Shriner photo.

              Edit: Now that I think about it the steel wheel extents beyond the hubcap on the Shriner car and is black. This gave me the perception of a wider gap. This is not true with knock offs. So they probably are the same.



              Mike
              Last edited by Mike E.; October 31, 2014, 03:13 PM.

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              • James W.
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                • December 1, 1990
                • 2612

                #8
                Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

                I can atest to the memory of th nylon repro tires. Took the car for a drive earlier in the week and there was a definite shudder until I had driven about 3 to 4 miles. Temps were in the 60's.

                James


                Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                True, and I would agree, but as Kelsey says on their website about these tires:

                "2 ply nylon tubeless. Nylon body plies then and now. Critical for class judging. Remember, nylon has a memory, which you will feel, and leaves the vehicle environment when the normal tire operating temperature is reached. Could take somewhat longer in December than July. Usually five or so continuous miles of driving are all that is needed."

                In other words, they will flat spot when cold and have been sitting for a time.

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                • Wayne M.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 6414

                  #9
                  Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

                  Mike -- those whitewalls you show on the assembly line are definitely wide.

                  Here's another two promo photos of the new '65s. Looks like the one with KO's has a wider whitewall as well, and appears closer to the rim of the wheel, but now I'm thinking the steel wheel car an illusion, as there's there's over a half inch of black rim exposed, even with the wheelcover installed.




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                  • Mike E.
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                    • June 25, 2012
                    • 920

                    #10
                    Re: 1965 tires Brands / whitewall width

                    Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                    Mike -- those whitewalls you show on the assembly line are definitely wide.

                    Looks like the one with KO's has a wider whitewall as well, and appears closer to the rim of the wheel, but now I'm thinking the steel wheel car an illusion, as there's there's over a half inch of black rim exposed, even with the wheelcover installed.
                    I agree...I thought of that too and edited my original post.


                    Mike

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