Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

[Donald A.]

Guys;

The starter that is currently on my 70 LS-5 does not seem to be anything close to what is in the book.

Can anyone help me ID what I actually have on the car.

To me the number in the pic is 1108776?? Or 11005776???

It looks like there might be a letter after the 6 on the date code but hard to tell.

Thanks for any help.

PS. How hard is it going to be to find the correct 1108400 unit for my 70 LS-5 Manual Trans and properly date coded??

[Kevin G.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

1108776 is the part number for the starter motor.
6= Last digit of the year (1966-1976, etc)
E= month= May
21= day of the month
2= 2th shift
I'm still searching .....


Edit: "The only Corvette listing I see for the 1108776 starter motor is late '75, and all of '76, both years for automatic trans only. This would make the date code of '76 the most reasonable.
Does it have a cast iron nose, or an aluminuminum nose? Cast iron noses were normally only used for 4 speed cars, and the alum noses used for automatics."

[Joe L.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

Guys;

The starter that is currently on my 70 LS-5 does not seem to be anything close to what is in the book.

Can anyone help me ID what I actually have on the car.

To me the number in the pic is 1108776?? Or 11005776???

It looks like there might be a letter after the 6 on the date code but hard to tell.

Thanks for any help.

PS. How hard is it going to be to find the correct 1108400 unit for my 70 LS-5 Manual Trans and properly date coded??

Don-------


The starter part number has to be 1108776. No starters of GM #1105xxx or 1106xxx were ever assigned by Delco Remy, at least for starters of the model that would have been applicable to passenger cars. GM #1108776 was originally used for many 1976 Chevrolet models, including Corvette.

If the starter has been through an aftermarket commercial rebuilder, which is extremely likely, the numbers on the frame mean absolutely nothing. They are only the "vestige" of the original starter that supplied the frame. Everything else could have been changed .

How difficult will it be to obtain a non-restamped, original GM #1108400 starter properly dated for your car? VERY.

[Donald A.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

Joe

thanks for the reply. Guess I will just keep a look out.

[Donald A.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

Joe. Look at what popped up on e-bay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1108400-9M22-DATED-DELCO-REMY-STARTER-CORVETTE-454-W-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-/261164410641?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cce9ca711&vxp=mtr

here is my question. In judging you can't get under the car to see this then why in the world is a starter worth $500???

if there are parts on the car that can't be judged for date codes then why do people pay silly money for stuff?

I'm not trying to be difficult here. I would really like to understand more about this whole scene. Are people just buying stuff for the personal satisfaction?? Is there other aspects about this corvette hobby I'm missing.

Thanks for any insight

[Terry M.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

Joe. Look at what popped up on e-bay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1108400-9M22-DATED-DELCO-REMY-STARTER-CORVETTE-454-W-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-/261164410641?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cce9ca711&vxp=mtr

here is my question. In judging you can't get under the car to see this then why in the world is a starter worth $500???

if there are parts on the car that can't be judged for date codes then why do people pay silly money for stuff?

I'm not trying to be difficult here. I would really like to understand more about this whole scene. Are people just buying stuff for the personal satisfaction?? Is there other aspects about this corvette hobby I'm missing.

Thanks for any insight

Don,

Even I can get under a Corvette to judge a starter configuration, date, etc. I can even get those numbers from a 1969 with side pipes, but none of that has anything to do with the cost of the part. If you don't want to pay the price asked -- don't.

[Steve M.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

If beat to heck fan blades go for $800, then five bills for a starter sounds reasonable.

That one even has the right date for you. I'm not sure if finding one so quickly means they are easy to find or angels are watching over you, but either way get it - it's only money.

[Kevin G.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

I'm no stamp expert, but do the 84 (00) last two zeros seem odd?

You're welcome Mr. Ayers.......

[Patrick H.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

I'm no stamp expert, but do the 84 (00) last two zeros seem odd?

You're welcome Mr. Ayers.......

I'm OK with them.
However, I wouldn't buy anything from that seller even if it was the last part I ever needed and no more existed on earth.

[Kevin G.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

I'm OK with them.
However, I wouldn't buy anything from that seller even if it was the last part I ever needed and no more existed on earth.

If you blow up the stamping as large as possible I notice a different font/shape/size in the last two zeros. I do agree with you on the seller, however.

[Warren F.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

I compared the stamping to a starter I have, for the most part it looks good, with one glaring exception that I notice. I'm don't know anything about the seller, but I would be cautious after hearing Patrick and Kevin's comments.

[Donald A.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

Thanks for all the comments. That is why I posted here.

As steve commented either I'm extremely lucky or something is odd.

The thought has crossed my mind that people watch the forums for posts about things folks are wanting to find and then produce them out of thin air for high dollars. I'm not saying this is the case here but I bet it happens.

The best thing is when folks (private people who are not in this as a living) see what others are looking for, happen to have the part, and reach out with a reasonable offer. You can always tell these are the best people because their concern is more about you and the car rather than the all mighty $.

Based on the interesting comments about the seller I think I'm better off putting money elsewhere in the car.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

[Joe L.]

Re: Help with Starter ID on my 70 LS-5???

Joe. Look at what popped up on e-bay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1108400-9M22-DATED-DELCO-REMY-STARTER-CORVETTE-454-W-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-/261164410641?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cce9ca711&vxp=mtr

here is my question. In judging you can't get under the car to see this then why in the world is a starter worth $500???

if there are parts on the car that can't be judged for date codes then why do people pay silly money for stuff?

I'm not trying to be difficult here. I would really like to understand more about this whole scene. Are people just buying stuff for the personal satisfaction?? Is there other aspects about this corvette hobby I'm missing.

Thanks for any insight

Don------


In my opinion, "numbers" and "dates" are WAY over-rated in importance. Mostly, this is because judging organizations, including our NCRS, have created this situation. My feeling has always been, is now, and will likely forever more be that what's important is configuration. "Numbers" and "dates" are part of configuration and should be judged. However, "numbers" and "dates" are an extremely small part of configuration and should receive a commensurate point value. That's not how it is but, in my opinion, that's how it should be.

I think the "numbers" and "dates" thing fosters a "treasure hunt phenomenon". Folks seem to enjoy "treasure hunts" so, if "numbers" and "dates" have any real value, maybe it's to facilitate treasure hunts. After all, most of us are not able or inclined to going on a treasure hunt in the waters that pirates used to ply in search of gold dubloons and pieces-of-eight.

As far as a starter goes, you can easily and inexpensively obtain a starter which is 99% correct with respect to original configuration with the exception primarily of "numbers" and "dates".